"You may not necessarily feel happy, I sure don't". Do you mean you have depression? I'm really sorry if that's the case, I didn't mean to insinuate that your life wasn't worth being born into or that you'd be better off not existing. I guess talking about never being born would be a sensitive topic for anyone going through a debilitating illness, and I may have been insensitive with this post, so I'm sorry. This was really only meant as a hypothetical thought experiment, I didn't mean to hurt anyone. The worst I meant to cause with this post was the same kind of temporary existentialism that you feel when you ponder the vastness of the universe. Anyway, once someone is born then I do think their life does have meaning, and ending it prematurely is never a solution to depression. Even antinatalists would logically conclude that it's not the same thing to never have been born in the first place, as it is to end your life once you've already been born.
You read a little too far into that, I don't have depression, I'm just generally dissatisfied with the state of my life right now. I don't think you were insensitive with the post, you were just presenting an idea. I didn't mean to put you on the defensive.
I don't know how antinatalists would have argued that point. I originally typed that as "they *would* argue", then realized they probably wouldn't so I just left it as "they *might* argue". Not sure it's logically consistent to say that being dead is different from not being born in the first place, though. In either case, you're not there. You've had some effect on the world, but the same is true for not existing in the first place (not giving birth is a decision someone had to make).
For the record, I don't actually believe they're the same, just saying that if you accept one premise, it seems like you have to accept the other as well.
Ok good, I'm glad to hear that. I was just worried that you wrote such a long post because you were upset. I imagined that maybe you had often wished before that you were never born, and that this post has brought all those painful feelings back to the surface. I may have overreacted assuming all that from just one sentence, but I couldn't risk not checking anyway just in case. Anyway now that I know you're all good, I've written a response to your post.
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"You may not necessarily feel happy, I sure don't". Do you mean you have depression? I'm really sorry if that's the case, I didn't mean to insinuate that your life wasn't worth being born into or that you'd be better off not existing. I guess talking about never being born would be a sensitive topic for anyone going through a debilitating illness, and I may have been insensitive with this post, so I'm sorry. This was really only meant as a hypothetical thought experiment, I didn't mean to hurt anyone. The worst I meant to cause with this post was the same kind of temporary existentialism that you feel when you ponder the vastness of the universe. Anyway, once someone is born then I do think their life does have meaning, and ending it prematurely is never a solution to depression. Even antinatalists would logically conclude that it's not the same thing to never have been born in the first place, as it is to end your life once you've already been born.
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You read a little too far into that, I don't have depression, I'm just generally dissatisfied with the state of my life right now. I don't think you were insensitive with the post, you were just presenting an idea. I didn't mean to put you on the defensive.
I don't know how antinatalists would have argued that point. I originally typed that as "they *would* argue", then realized they probably wouldn't so I just left it as "they *might* argue". Not sure it's logically consistent to say that being dead is different from not being born in the first place, though. In either case, you're not there. You've had some effect on the world, but the same is true for not existing in the first place (not giving birth is a decision someone had to make).
For the record, I don't actually believe they're the same, just saying that if you accept one premise, it seems like you have to accept the other as well.
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Ok good, I'm glad to hear that. I was just worried that you wrote such a long post because you were upset. I imagined that maybe you had often wished before that you were never born, and that this post has brought all those painful feelings back to the surface. I may have overreacted assuming all that from just one sentence, but I couldn't risk not checking anyway just in case. Anyway now that I know you're all good, I've written a response to your post.