I think it's horrible, and generally the people who subscribe to if are the saddest people in the world.
You've portrayed antinatalists in a different light to how they are. Antinatalists are generally people who say you shouldn't breed because there's so much suffering in the world (and for them there probably is), or the world's overpopulated, or the climate. It's just shitty reasons not to breed, and unfortunatley they persist because the most wretched part of each generation takes up there cause, so it's not even as if their philosophy dies out in time.
Because they mostly come from westerners, where the quality of life is really high, where the country's birth rate is below replacement rate and we're the ones pushing to minimize climate change.
I still don't know how that makes them shitty reasons to not breed. It seems like a pretty reasonable first step to stopping overpopulation is to stop the massive birthrate.
I think there's something to be said for birth control access in the Western world and women getting educations slowing down the birthrate. Those are two things that are culturally different in a lot of eastern societies, but there are also just cultures that value many children regardless.
Fair enough if you think that but I don't see how I've portrayed them differently. You say that antinatalists say people shouldn't breed because there's so much suffering in the world, and that's pretty much exactly what I wrote in my post. Because there's so much suffering in life, it may not be worth being born when you're not currently experiencing any suffering.
Over-population and environmental damage are other reasons why they hold their beliefs alright and, depending on the person, these may be the best reasons why they think people shouldn't breed. But they seem to be very good reasons in my view.
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I think it's horrible, and generally the people who subscribe to if are the saddest people in the world.
You've portrayed antinatalists in a different light to how they are. Antinatalists are generally people who say you shouldn't breed because there's so much suffering in the world (and for them there probably is), or the world's overpopulated, or the climate. It's just shitty reasons not to breed, and unfortunatley they persist because the most wretched part of each generation takes up there cause, so it's not even as if their philosophy dies out in time.
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How are those shitty reasons not to breed?
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Because they mostly come from westerners, where the quality of life is really high, where the country's birth rate is below replacement rate and we're the ones pushing to minimize climate change.
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I still don't know how that makes them shitty reasons to not breed. It seems like a pretty reasonable first step to stopping overpopulation is to stop the massive birthrate.
I think there's something to be said for birth control access in the Western world and women getting educations slowing down the birthrate. Those are two things that are culturally different in a lot of eastern societies, but there are also just cultures that value many children regardless.
Fair enough if you think that but I don't see how I've portrayed them differently. You say that antinatalists say people shouldn't breed because there's so much suffering in the world, and that's pretty much exactly what I wrote in my post. Because there's so much suffering in life, it may not be worth being born when you're not currently experiencing any suffering.
Over-population and environmental damage are other reasons why they hold their beliefs alright and, depending on the person, these may be the best reasons why they think people shouldn't breed. But they seem to be very good reasons in my view.