What are your thoughts on the connecticut shooting

I think the shooter is obviously a vile person who kills little children. These wee babies left home to go to school excited about Christmas & they didn't even make it through lunch. My heart is heavy with emotion. Do you think obama should do something in terms of prohibiting the possession of guns completely? Is the media placing too much emphasis on this because it's America?

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  • Ibelievethis

    Where do I even begin. Those poor children and staff and their poor families. As a mum it just doesn't even bear thinking about that you put your beautiful innocent and trusting child into school and they may never come home. No words could really describe how people are feeling. My thoughts and prayers are with all the people affected. I know it wouldn't make any difference when it happened but 11 days before christmas. I don't doubt their parents had all the christmas things ready and those poor little children must have been so excited looking forward to father christmas/santa coming to visit them.
    The children will have eternal rest though as they are only young and so innocent. xx

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  • Darkoil

    I usually don't care for world events however I am absolutely disgusted by this story. I wish the shooter was alive so he could be forced to answer for what he did.

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    • Ibelievethis

      Yeah absolulty. Those poor families wont even get justice for their beautiful babies, as the perpetrator has bailed himself out. x

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      • MissyLeyneous

        I agree. What I want to know is, though, why would he dress up in a bullet proof vest if he had intentions to kill himself? Seems kinda contradictory. :/

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  • alexdahotty

    that cock sucking stupid ass fucking asshole/fagget ass fucking bitchass murderer should
    choke on his dads dick eat shit & fucking go 2 hell with his dumbass.

    -Alex.v

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  • iEatZombies_

    It's not as good an idea as people think it is to ban guns. Guns in the hands of citizens keep wars from happening on our soil. As a matter of fact, Japanese General Yamamoto warned that "Americans all have and are trained in the use of firearms. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.", upon discussing attacking on US soil.
    I think we should better regulate those who are able to have guns. We also need to take more seriously the mental state of people. This gunman was said to have told people around him that he wanted to hurt people, and in return they ignored him. Didn't anybody notice that his family didn't even have a picture of him past 13 years old? Not that this justifies these actions, but he was obviously tired of crying for help and being ignored. That doesn't make him a victim by any means- he deserves to burn, but we could prevent these things with more understanding and carefulness on our part.

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  • Severus'sDaughter19

    It was a horrible tragedy that should have never taken place, as all the other tragedies that struck this nation. RIP to all of those who lost their lives to tragedies such as this.

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  • mitochondria

    Also, while I'm extremely worried about the families who just lost their children and other loved ones right before christmas, I'm very very worried for the gunman's brother.

    Not only was he wrongly accused and his face and name thrown all over the country, his facebook and twitter were apparently swamped with threats and strangers' messages. He was just at work and had no idea his mother and brother died like that. I hope his friends and what family is left understand, and I hope he comes out the other end okay.

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    • Avant-Garde

      I feel sorry for his brother. Because of what the media did in releasing the wrong name, people are wrongly blaming him and already over 1000 Facebook groups calling for his death have been created.

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    • MissyLeyneous

      It was reported live that he was arrested near the school wearing camouflage and shouting "it wasn't me!" Only now is it being reported that he was at work...

      Makes you wonder which it was, and who the camo-man was, and wtf happened to the details.

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      • mitochondria

        I read that he was arrested 'on the scene' too, but when I later read the gunman was dead inside and he was arrested from work, I wondered what was up.
        I'm very suspicious actually. I'm HOPING that the camo guy was just some, like, really worried guy who realized that wearing camo on the day of a shooting makes you look suspicious, had a panic attack, and worried they would convict him, and thus started yelling that it wasn't him? Just because that seems feasible.
        But I don't want to start spewing conjecture everywhere, haha!

        I just also figure that if he IS as innocent as the new stories say, man, it's the sort of thing he's never going to truly be able to get over or get away from. That's the part that worries me the most.

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        • MissyLeyneous

          When you get down to it, ALL of the shooting stories we've had lately are suspicious.

          The Sikh Temple Shooting, the Batman Shooting, the Oregon Mall Shooting, the list goes on... and now the Connecticut Child Massacre.

          I REALLY think these things are staged to push gun control legislation here in the US. It wasn't enough when ordinary adults died in a theater, it wasn't enough when teens died in college, it wasn't enough when innocents died in the temple..... It had to be CHILDREN.

          I truly believe this is a "false flag" of sorts to get this anti-gun shit pushed through without a fight.

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  • myboyfriendsbitch

    If guns were prohibited completely, there would still be psychos with guns for many years. How is it possible for every person's gun to be compensated? Not every gun is registered under the right persons name. Guns are traded all the time without reregistering. Only the honest, lawful and scared would give up their guns.the rest will be tightly tucked away. There is no way everyone's house would be thoroughly searched. Such an act would certainly leave psychopaths and right minded rebels with guns, while the rest are left only with their sanity - not a good weapon against a psycho.

    I wish it could be that easy, but there are just too many guns out there. I think people should definitely be mentally evaluated before being given permission to have a gun. Prohibiting felons from possession is not enough. Besides, i know plenty of felons with guns anyways and they have more than non-felons.

    I feel terrible about this catastrophe and i wish it could have been prevented. I guess we just have to quite trusting one another.

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  • disthing

    It's sad that these things happen. That's about the extent of my feelings. In terms of gun laws, that's for Americans to decide.

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  • thinkingaboutit

    especially for the people who own guns, complying with gun prohibition, would be like willfully giving up their all their freedom.

    what happened is really sad, but innocent civilians die everyday around the world. some people live through things quite possibility worse than death.

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  • dom180

    Guns don't avoid critical thinking by leaning on tired aphorisms. People do.

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  • Avant-Garde

    I think occurrences like this could've been prevented a long time ago if this country had put created stricter guns laws or just banned guns all together. I don't think civilians should be allowed to have access to buying military weapons and they should do background checks. But even if background checks are made the law there's still the huge chance that the weapon could be borrowed to or stolen by someone of unsound mind. I think there should be more research going into how to better treat people with mental illnesses. In a sense, all this gun violence is this country's fault for not taking a stand a lot sooner and the media worsens things by causing someone somewhere to want to top off what the last person did.

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  • mitochondria

    The gunman's guns didn't belong to him.
    I also don't think we should focus on the guns in this situation. I think we should focus on the fact that we're focusing on guns instead of the victims and their families, and then focus on the victims and their families.

    The man in China who stabbed 22 children and an elderly woman yesterday did not need a gun to do so.

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    • MissyLeyneous

      YES.

      Suddenly, I love you.

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      • mitochondria

        Thank you. :)

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    • dom180

      And none of the people he stabbed died. If he had a gun they might all have died. You can bet the number would have been above zero, anyway.

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      • dom180

        Thumbs-downed for facts. Fucking ridiculous.

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        • mitochondria

          I thumbs upped you because that is a fair point. But the point I'm attempting to make with my comment is that regardless of whether or not he has a gun he wanted to harm a bunch of children, and he succeeded.
          A bunch of those kids are still in the ICU and still MIGHT die. A lot of those people are still living in very real fear that they might never get over, and it might not be the same degree of fear, (or it might!) but it's a very similar kind of fear to the kind that the folks in Connecticut now live with.
          Maybe we should stop caring about which weapon he has and start caring about why he wanted to hurt them?

          I am very happy that none of those poor kids are dead, though.

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    • Avant-Garde

      I heard about the Incident in China. But one of the things that I'm concerned about the most is why a teacher would have guns like these. A better way to word this is: Why are civilians allowed to have access to buying military weapons? These weapons should be only used by the specially trained professionals they were originally designed for.

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      • mitochondria

        I think civilian access to guns being the trigger point is an important debate, but I also think that debate could probably stand to wait until after everyone in Connecticut has stopped crying, maybe, is all I'm saying.

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  • dom180

    IQ tests before buying guns would not solve gun violence problems for two reasons (probably more that I can't think of right now).

    1) Plenty of psychopaths can pass an IQ test.

    2) Even if they couldn't pass an IQ test, they could buy one on the black market from someone who can.

    Maybe a psychopathy test could solve problem 1 (MAYBE), but not problem 2.

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    • disthing

      A full psychological evaluation would definitely be much more sensible than an IQ test. However in this case it was actually the mother of the perpetrator who had the gun license, who might very well be of sound mind.

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      • dom180

        Agreed, people can get hold of guns without a license easily from friends, family or on the black market. A full psychological evaluation would be way too expensive to ever be implemented anyway, sadly, so more people would either turn to the black market or whoever has to conduct those evaluations would cut corners.

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        • disthing

          You're probably right. We're lucky in the UK that restrictions on gun ownership have been around for over 1 hundred years and those restrictions have gradually tightened. We never really had widespread gun ownership which means it's much easier to control. There just isn't the same gun culture here.

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          • dom180

            Culture can be changed though. Here in the UK we changed attitude to seat-belts here in the 70s and 80s, and attitude to war veterans in the 90s. We're changing attitudes to smoking now. We did that with the hard work of charities and government awareness campaigns. It can happen, culture can be changed. Changing gun culture in the US might not be so easy, but it's far from not possible.

            It might be harder for gun control, but it wouldn't be impossible. If gun control laws were introduced gently and gradually in America, that would be a lot better than marching in and outright banning all guns. Do it gradually and people will adapt, because adapting will be easier than breaking the law.

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    • mitochondria

      The man who was the shooter actually was an autistic genius. He graduated high school something like three years early.
      Also, what disthing said.

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      • dom180

        Exactly, hence why IQ tests would be pointless.

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    • Avant-Garde

      Also, people have too much access nowadays to how to create their own weapons. I read a comment on another site and the guy said he saw a video where a guy made a gun from a 3D printer.

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  • dinz

    I think it should be made mandatory that every US citizen from the age of 5 and upwards should be given a gun to protect themselves. A little gun holster attached to little Jimmy's school bag will solve this problem.

    No wonder the US has one of the world's lowest gun related crimes in the Western world. *NOT*

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    • MissyLeyneous

      You were correct up until the sarcasm. Change the age to 15 and you might be getting somewhere.

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      • dinz

        It won't work - majority of the mass shootings that occurred in schools were done by minors in the first place. It just happened that this horrible incident had an adult involved.

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        • MissyLeyneous

          The only difference between what you're saying and what I'm thinking is this:

          You're imagining one child with a gun going into an UNarmed school.

          If the same thing happened but the ENTIRE SCHOOL was armed and ready for disaster then that ONE kid wouldn't stand a chance, and would probably NEVER attempt it in the first place.

          That's MY kind of "preventative measures". Cameras can't save anyone, but guns CAN.

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      • VioletTrees

        Oh yeah, that'll do wonders for the teen suicide rate.

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        • dude_Jones

          When killing one's self, quickness and ease of death is not much of an issue because there's no resistance. But, I think MissyLeyneous is just being hypothetical anyway.

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          • VioletTrees

            That's not true. I've attempted suicide, and quickness and ease were both major considerations.

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            • dude_Jones

              Sorry, I stand corrected. I'm backing that pitcher down to a small glass.

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          • MissyLeyneous

            You both forgot to read the reply below that one.

            If those teachers had been carrying, those children wouldn't have died, plain and simple.

            But now we have the media demonizing "ASSAULT rifles"... when it was originally dual pistols.

            Can you say.... PSY OPS?

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  • dom180

    Fuck the NRA.

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    • Avant-Garde

      I can't believe you got thumbs down for this. The people need to protest for reform!

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  • this was just proof that god doesn't exist.

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    • dude_Jones

      Before you make this conclusion, consider Morphine, and Masturbation. I would say that each is merciful. Right now, my friend, the victims families need lots of mercy.

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    • GoraIntoDesiGals

      Spot on. I don't know how people can't comprehend this simple fact. Some tards thumbed you down but I upped you one notch.

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  • Plasma1813

    Getting ride of guns would only violate the second amendment and cause problems with gun owners especially in the south(who already hate Obama enough) besides if you take away guns then then they will probably start using knives and atleast a gun shot tends to kill you faster

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  • dom180

    Look at any case study of any country in the world where gun control laws have been introduced. Find me a single one in which gun violence has increased in the long-term after these laws. Only then I will give any credence at all to your viewpoint.

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    • MissyLeyneous

      Gun violence increasing is not the point being made. Gun violence DOES decrease, but never goes away.

      It's the NON-gun-related violence that SKYROCKETS. How are these people going to protect themselves if they aren't armed? Is the burglar/rapist/murderer going to wait 5, 10, 25 minutes for a cop to show up? Fuck no!

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      • dom180

        Gun violence disappearing completely is not the point being made either. As you so rightly say, it decreases even if it doesn't go away.

        "It's the NON-gun-related violence that SKYROCKETS."
        Source please.

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        • MissyLeyneous

          Is this venture worth my while or are you just going to ignore the sources I give you? :/

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          • dom180

            I won't ignore them, I promise. I'll dispute their validity if I think they are invalid, and I'll reply with counter-sources if I find them. I might even change my mind, if you can convince me so. I won't ignore them, though.

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            • MissyLeyneous

              Wow. You have no idea how nice that is to hear. Truly, no sarcasm involved. :D

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  • so dumb that any looney can have a gun

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    • *get their hands on

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      • *a semi-automatic

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        • *so dumb

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  • penguin1

    Those poor kids! would've loved to see the shooter placed in a tiny cell for the rest of his life with pictures of the kids permanantly glued to the walls so he would be forced to look at them every single day for the rest of his wretched life!

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  • capcrunch6

    I believe that limiting the rights of law-abiding citizens is wrong. I do, however believe that in order to own a gun ALL GUN BUYERS should have a background check. (Whenever I buy a firearm I have one, why can't everyone else?) A mental health evaluation should also be required for non-hunting semi-autos. (Like in Germany)

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  • SuperBenzid

    I think education should be tied to gun ownership, perhaps IQ tests as well.

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  • I know how this is going to sound but to be honest, I really don't see what the big deal is. Everyone has to die sometime.

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    • Ibelievethis

      I can't beleive I am even giving you the time of day replying to you. How sick and disgusting. You don't see the big deal in little children dying. You look those bereaved and devestated parents in the eye and tell them it's no big deal.

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      • Shut the hell up. If you're too stupid to comprehend what I'm saying and take it in the proper context then that's your problem.

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        • dude_Jones

          I'm a different, but smart guy and your point seems a little obscure. Are you saying that life is basically nothing because death is basically nothing?

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          • My point is that people - including children - die all the time. With that said, I don't fully understand the emotional fervor surrounding this case.

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            • dude_Jones

              Well yes. When children die, as opposed to adults, there is terrible pain for their families. But, since it is from disease or accidents, families quietly internalize the pain. The shooting tragedy had terrible mal-intent so now this terrible pain can be directed fervently at a target (the shooter).

              The social outrage helps society protect itself from homicidal sociopaths. So, it is very adaptive behavior.

              What do you think?

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        • Ibelievethis

          No I wont shut the hell up. I may be a lot of things but stupid is most certainly not one of them. I'll stand by
          what I said, it is sickening that you don't think this is
          a big deal. Does your heart not bleed for those poor children
          and their families. What sort of planet am I living on.

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    • whatisthenatureofreality

      7 billion humans. World is too overpopulated anyway.

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      • MissyLeyneous

        I'm sick and fucking tired of hearing this MYTH. If you want to reduce YOUR population then stop breeding and just go DIE.

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      • Mr.Dongle

        & even then it's too much of a hard work to get some pussy.

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