Hahah, yeah, nah man, that's full of shit, christianity isnt comparable to Islam in what comes to "harm" christianity has done literally nothing in modern times to push "violent crimes" in the name of god, or to force any law by their bible into any country.
And if youre going to bring the crusade argument I'll remind you that the crusades were created because of the muslim invasion and oppresion in europe and it happened long, LONG time ago, (which is still not comparable to the jihad made by the muslims also in that time)
Even though you are bringing out a branch of Islam (that is very predominant in the middle east and thats why countries with massive immigration in europe are getting more terrorist attacks) a lot of their preachings coincide with the "Holy writing of god by the goatfucker mahoma". the ones i despise the most are about other religions being total impure filth and people following them having no human value, the woman having half the value of a man, and the punishment for apostasy, which is death.
Sorry to break it to you, but Islam is no religion of peace, and please, dont make a fool of yourself and mention other religions into this.
Both Christianity and Islam are subsets of Judaism both have Abraham as a important patriarch. Christians put a bigger importance on Jesus and Muslims worship Muhammad. Both have commit countless atrocities in the name of their God from last to present its just the spot light has been pointed at Islam in recent times. Christianity has just been rightfully silenced and reformed other then a few radicals who long for the old days. I could personally care less what one worships but you can't deny facts that Christianity is just as bloody as Islam.
What do you consider modern times? The last two days? I already debunked the lie that Christians aren't violent in my other post, but just to add to that, they also routinely try to force their religion on any and every country they can. To suggest otherwise is laughable.
Thing is that most Christians can't come to terms that Islam has the same God as theirs and both come from the same house of Abraham. Werid how non religious people can point that out but both sides try to act like that's not the case.
As far as I'm concerned christanity has just as much blood as Islam. Both have committed various genocides to force faith by the sword. Christianity had to be forced to reform something Islam hasn't faced. But you have some Christians that wish to bring about a Christian dominated theocratic state just like the Muslims. I don't delude myself into thinking that Muslims are worse then Christians both are equally bad.
I have to disagree since even though i dont like Christianity i have a deep respect for them because they freed my country from the Caliphate in the crusades, which were meant as a measure for the quick spread of Islam through the whole continent.
I would rather live under Christian rulership than any caliphate at any time. Why?
In a Christian country you can believe in every religion you want, hell they will even allow you to build your own temple for god.
In a Muslim country your religion and way of thinking dictates how the averague population treats you, making any church other than a mezquite is fucking haram.
In a Christian country you're not forced to hear loud preachings, wear jihab, go out acompanied by a man...
In a Muslim country it is, plus the punishments and the death penalty, pretty serious shit that scares the entire population and think it's a pilar for their moral values
Religion isn't perfect, but there are shades of grey.
Then what was the dark ages and the inquisition I really doubt Christians allowed people to freely worship. The only reason why Christians arent complete rabid nut jobs now like Muslims is because of reforms that was thankfully forced. Islam is still the same as it was from its foundation to now and that's why they are a problem. Are you from Southern Europe as far as I understand weren't they under the North African caliphate for 500 years? As a note the west is mainly successful because its secular looks at Christian nations like most parts of Africa Latin America and even Eastern Europe and you will find those aren't places you want to live in because they are almost similar to Islamic ones.
I dont know in which part of the world you live where Christians instead of preaching in churches or in the street EXTORSIONATE you to turn Christian, but ok.
I am also going to answer your stupid argument about "Christianity also does terror" which is true, but not as you put it.
Nah, if you are going to say that muslims dont study nor read the quran and follow the rules it mandates i'm done arguing with a mindwashed drone. You know, women dont wear Veils just because its Aesthetically pleasing, but because its seen as something whoreish.
Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam
Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."
Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt or water on their hands to purify themselves, following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).
Quran (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.
All of these text come from your good ol' base quran without any expansion pack, your one ticket way to treat women like shit.
There are more verses like "getting to fuck her whenever you want without her consent" and such, but i'm just too lazy.
"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)
"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Genesis 3:16)
That's just a small selection of the many misogynistic passes in the bible. I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Christianity is no better than Islam. This isn't an argument you can win, friend.
If you're really going to base it just off the scripture, you have to look at your own religion first.
And it would be ignorant of me to post verses. It's not my place to.
What >is< my place is to delegitimize people like you who claim to know the details of a system they dismiss, and claim to not be ignorant by being ignorant.
I have no religion, i am all the way an Atheist, but as far as i'm concerned the Christian church hasn't commited any terrorist attack as i said, nor the Christian church is actively prosecuting homosexuals (even though its actually writen and mentioned that its a sin) yeah, the bible isn't flawless, but is way less agressive to foreigners since it says god sees us equal and stuff. Islam does the exact opposite, they call the woman retarded, lustful whores, liars and vile creatures. Same with other religions, since we are just shit to step on.
The Wahluigi branch or whatever WAS meant to happen with all this hate in the "Quran". Seriously, try to look it up without looking at the shitty Muslim propaganda there's on the internet, read what the islamic children with their brain still developing learn at the synagoghe and how they do it.
https://youtu.be/JdHD7cr0kA8
Here's a report of one of the many muslim "schools" there are in the UK
The only reason the Christian church doesn't prosecute homosexuals anymore, like they used to, is because they don't have the legislative control necessary to do so. All they can legally do right now is try to stop them from getting married, adopting children, or having a job. If they got away with that, you can believe that they would start prosecuting them again, just like they use electroshock therapy on homosexual children every chance they get.
The Christian church doesn't commit terrorist attacks? That's just shamefully ignorant. A Christian drove his car into a Planned Parenthood in March, a Christian drove his car into a group of people last summer, a Christian shot up a Mosque in Canada last winter, Christians plotted to blow up a Mosque and apartment complex in 2016, a Christian shot up a Planned Parenthood in 2015 right after another Christian was arrested for plotting to shoot up a Mosque.
You need to stop associating everything Muslims do with the Islam religion while dismissing all Christian terrorists as lone wolves that have nothing to do with Christianity. The KKK(and all similar white supremacist groups) is a Christian organization, they use the bible to justify their actions in the same way that ISIS uses the Quran. The bible talks about women and foreigners the same way the Quran does.
How many casualties were made?
2 in the last 10 years?
4 before the 2000?
And all of that of course in the US ground, most of those crimes also against muslims, not against the "unconverted" population.
Now, dont go around mentioning the "hurr durr but the cults in...-" No. The cults in china are variations of Christianity with mental people in them, their institution is completely different, thats why they are also called a "Cult"
"B-But in Nig-" The people at those countries are constantly at war, people angry, high on hard drugs and constantly fighting for control one another, the fact that they murder (again, also against muslims only) mean nothing anymore since they are poisoned by power and control. Their casualties in those "crusades" reached 155 casualties.
Now, from 2014 to 2017 Islam commited 20 lethal terror attacks which resulted in 331 deaths. Not in underdeveloped countries but in Western Civilization and Europe itself.
As i said, Islam isn't a religion of peace, Christianity isn't perfect nor is it good. I dont think any religion is good to be honest, just to make things clear, I am an Atheist, i dont believe in the need for a religion to develop a sense for "Good and bad", i dont believe in any god that hasn't proven exists or a thereafter we are not sure even exists.
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Hahah, yeah, nah man, that's full of shit, christianity isnt comparable to Islam in what comes to "harm" christianity has done literally nothing in modern times to push "violent crimes" in the name of god, or to force any law by their bible into any country.
And if youre going to bring the crusade argument I'll remind you that the crusades were created because of the muslim invasion and oppresion in europe and it happened long, LONG time ago, (which is still not comparable to the jihad made by the muslims also in that time)
Even though you are bringing out a branch of Islam (that is very predominant in the middle east and thats why countries with massive immigration in europe are getting more terrorist attacks) a lot of their preachings coincide with the "Holy writing of god by the goatfucker mahoma". the ones i despise the most are about other religions being total impure filth and people following them having no human value, the woman having half the value of a man, and the punishment for apostasy, which is death.
Sorry to break it to you, but Islam is no religion of peace, and please, dont make a fool of yourself and mention other religions into this.
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Both Christianity and Islam are subsets of Judaism both have Abraham as a important patriarch. Christians put a bigger importance on Jesus and Muslims worship Muhammad. Both have commit countless atrocities in the name of their God from last to present its just the spot light has been pointed at Islam in recent times. Christianity has just been rightfully silenced and reformed other then a few radicals who long for the old days. I could personally care less what one worships but you can't deny facts that Christianity is just as bloody as Islam.
What do you consider modern times? The last two days? I already debunked the lie that Christians aren't violent in my other post, but just to add to that, they also routinely try to force their religion on any and every country they can. To suggest otherwise is laughable.
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Thing is that most Christians can't come to terms that Islam has the same God as theirs and both come from the same house of Abraham. Werid how non religious people can point that out but both sides try to act like that's not the case.
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As far as I'm concerned christanity has just as much blood as Islam. Both have committed various genocides to force faith by the sword. Christianity had to be forced to reform something Islam hasn't faced. But you have some Christians that wish to bring about a Christian dominated theocratic state just like the Muslims. I don't delude myself into thinking that Muslims are worse then Christians both are equally bad.
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I have to disagree since even though i dont like Christianity i have a deep respect for them because they freed my country from the Caliphate in the crusades, which were meant as a measure for the quick spread of Islam through the whole continent.
I would rather live under Christian rulership than any caliphate at any time. Why?
In a Christian country you can believe in every religion you want, hell they will even allow you to build your own temple for god.
In a Muslim country your religion and way of thinking dictates how the averague population treats you, making any church other than a mezquite is fucking haram.
In a Christian country you're not forced to hear loud preachings, wear jihab, go out acompanied by a man...
In a Muslim country it is, plus the punishments and the death penalty, pretty serious shit that scares the entire population and think it's a pilar for their moral values
Religion isn't perfect, but there are shades of grey.
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Then what was the dark ages and the inquisition I really doubt Christians allowed people to freely worship. The only reason why Christians arent complete rabid nut jobs now like Muslims is because of reforms that was thankfully forced. Islam is still the same as it was from its foundation to now and that's why they are a problem. Are you from Southern Europe as far as I understand weren't they under the North African caliphate for 500 years? As a note the west is mainly successful because its secular looks at Christian nations like most parts of Africa Latin America and even Eastern Europe and you will find those aren't places you want to live in because they are almost similar to Islamic ones.
I dont know in which part of the world you live where Christians instead of preaching in churches or in the street EXTORSIONATE you to turn Christian, but ok.
I am also going to answer your stupid argument about "Christianity also does terror" which is true, but not as you put it.
Do your research, then we'll talk.
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Nah, if you are going to say that muslims dont study nor read the quran and follow the rules it mandates i'm done arguing with a mindwashed drone. You know, women dont wear Veils just because its Aesthetically pleasing, but because its seen as something whoreish.
so, here's my 2 minute research.
Quran (4:11) - (Inheritance) "The male shall have the equal of the portion of two females" (see also verse 4:176). In Islam
Quran (2:282) - (Court testimony) "And call to witness, from among your men, two witnesses. And if two men be not found then a man and two women."
Quran (5:6) - "And if ye are unclean, purify yourselves. And if ye are sick or on a journey, or one of you cometh from the closet, or ye have had contact with women, and ye find not water, then go to clean, high ground and rub your faces and your hands with some of it" Men are to rub dirt or water on their hands to purify themselves, following casual contact with a woman (such as shaking hands).
Quran (53:27) - "Those who believe not in the Hereafter, name the angels with female names." Angels are sublime beings, and would therefore be male.
All of these text come from your good ol' base quran without any expansion pack, your one ticket way to treat women like shit.
There are more verses like "getting to fuck her whenever you want without her consent" and such, but i'm just too lazy.
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Here's my 2 minute research on the bible.
"And the daughter of any priest, if she profane herself by playing the whore, she profaneth her father: she shall be burnt with fire." (Leviticus 21:9)
"But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God." (I Corinthians 11:3)
"For the man is not of the woman; but the woman of the man. Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man." (I Corinthians 11:8-9)
"Let the women learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression." (I Timothy 2:11-14)
"Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in everything." (Ephesians 5:22-24)
"Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church." (I Corinthians 14:34-35)
"Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee." (Genesis 3:16)
That's just a small selection of the many misogynistic passes in the bible. I hate to be the one to break this to you, but Christianity is no better than Islam. This isn't an argument you can win, friend.
Already did, fam, i'm on my phone and i cant post any verses from the Quran, maybe you should "enlighten" me
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If you're really going to base it just off the scripture, you have to look at your own religion first.
And it would be ignorant of me to post verses. It's not my place to.
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I have no religion, i am all the way an Atheist, but as far as i'm concerned the Christian church hasn't commited any terrorist attack as i said, nor the Christian church is actively prosecuting homosexuals (even though its actually writen and mentioned that its a sin) yeah, the bible isn't flawless, but is way less agressive to foreigners since it says god sees us equal and stuff. Islam does the exact opposite, they call the woman retarded, lustful whores, liars and vile creatures. Same with other religions, since we are just shit to step on.
The Wahluigi branch or whatever WAS meant to happen with all this hate in the "Quran". Seriously, try to look it up without looking at the shitty Muslim propaganda there's on the internet, read what the islamic children with their brain still developing learn at the synagoghe and how they do it.
https://youtu.be/JdHD7cr0kA8
Here's a report of one of the many muslim "schools" there are in the UK
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The only reason the Christian church doesn't prosecute homosexuals anymore, like they used to, is because they don't have the legislative control necessary to do so. All they can legally do right now is try to stop them from getting married, adopting children, or having a job. If they got away with that, you can believe that they would start prosecuting them again, just like they use electroshock therapy on homosexual children every chance they get.
The Christian church doesn't commit terrorist attacks? That's just shamefully ignorant. A Christian drove his car into a Planned Parenthood in March, a Christian drove his car into a group of people last summer, a Christian shot up a Mosque in Canada last winter, Christians plotted to blow up a Mosque and apartment complex in 2016, a Christian shot up a Planned Parenthood in 2015 right after another Christian was arrested for plotting to shoot up a Mosque.
You need to stop associating everything Muslims do with the Islam religion while dismissing all Christian terrorists as lone wolves that have nothing to do with Christianity. The KKK(and all similar white supremacist groups) is a Christian organization, they use the bible to justify their actions in the same way that ISIS uses the Quran. The bible talks about women and foreigners the same way the Quran does.
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Most Christians don't want to admit that they are just as bloodthirsty as ever.
"Christians plotted" "Christians tried"
How many casualties were made?
2 in the last 10 years?
4 before the 2000?
And all of that of course in the US ground, most of those crimes also against muslims, not against the "unconverted" population.
Now, dont go around mentioning the "hurr durr but the cults in...-" No. The cults in china are variations of Christianity with mental people in them, their institution is completely different, thats why they are also called a "Cult"
"B-But in Nig-" The people at those countries are constantly at war, people angry, high on hard drugs and constantly fighting for control one another, the fact that they murder (again, also against muslims only) mean nothing anymore since they are poisoned by power and control. Their casualties in those "crusades" reached 155 casualties.
Now, from 2014 to 2017 Islam commited 20 lethal terror attacks which resulted in 331 deaths. Not in underdeveloped countries but in Western Civilization and Europe itself.
As i said, Islam isn't a religion of peace, Christianity isn't perfect nor is it good. I dont think any religion is good to be honest, just to make things clear, I am an Atheist, i dont believe in the need for a religion to develop a sense for "Good and bad", i dont believe in any god that hasn't proven exists or a thereafter we are not sure even exists.