No. I don’t consider it the man’s fault if they are both drunk. Not every feminist believes the way you think they do. In my PERSONAL opinion, you lose the ability to consent when you are too drunk or high to speak coherently and fluently. If both parties are slurring their words and wobbling, I believe they both lose the ability to consent. If neither party can consent, there really is no perpetrator, and I can understand why it can be a tough case in a court of law.
I’m talking about the countless men and police officers who outright try to place blame on the victims based on what the victim was wearing and or what drug they were under the influence of. Something that should never be said is “Well if you weren’t dressed like a whore, he wouldn’t have thought you were into it.”
When a man gets raped by a woman without being drugged or without the woman holding a gun to his head, sometimes it’s not taken seriously because the man is almost always physically capable of pushing the bitch off. I’m not saying it shouldn’t be taken seriously but that is something to at the very least consider.
It happens less to men because they are physically stronger, bigger (which means it usually takes more alcohol to get them drunk, and when men are drunk, they’re still big and strong, but now they’re likely not thinking straight, and if something were to happen, the woman is likely physically incapable of pushing him away.)
I believe all rape cases should be taken seriously, however, women are undeniably the most targeted because they are physically weaker. That being said, women still have rights that we need to fight for.
Also, I do realize that women in America still have it much better off that women in other countries, but that doesn’t mean our problems doesn’t exist. My mom was knocked out and raped in front of my baby sister. My boyfriend was also raped as a small child. The weaker you are, the more targeted you are. Both children and women have almost a 0% percent chance of being able to defend themselves against someone bigger and stronger unless they have a weapon or training. Men don’t have to be trained to be lethal. The only women you see that have a chance of being able to defend themselves with their hands/feet alone are mixed martial art fighters, such as Cyborg. The average woman doesn’t stand a chance to the average man.
This makes me think of the “Black Lives Matter” movement. When I was like 15, I would say “But all lives matter!” Duh no shit. All lives matter. Black people have a specific ongoing problem that needs to be addressed, but that’s not to say no other race matters. Just like people who fight for women’s rights aren’t saying that men don’t matter. We’re only trying to say that we have a specific problem that needs to be addressed. You men can feel free to start your own movement if you feel that you need to. There are plenty of men that are feminists as well, do they not care about their own sex?
Here’s just some of the famous male people who claim to be feminists.
Daniel Radcliffe
Patrick Stewart
Mark Ruffalo
Eddie Vedder
David Schwimmer
Ezra Miller
John Legend
Jon Hamm
Seth Meyers
Louis C.K.
Prince Harry
Ryan Gosling
Daniel Craig
Andy Samberg
Will Smith
Ashton Kutcher
Obama
Harry Styles
Chris Martin
Ian Somerhalder
Chris Hemsworth
Forrest Whitaker
Tom Hardy
Matt Damon
Here’s some famous women who claim to be feminists.
Ashley Judd
Jessica Chastain
Beyoncé
Geena Davis
Kristen Bell
Patricia Arquette
Lena Dunham
Emma Watson
Shonda Rhimes
Amy Schumer
Jennifer Lawrence
Ava DuVernay
Tina Fey
Charlize Theron
Zooey Deschanel
Eva Longoria
Reese Witherspoon
And there are so much more respectable feminists of both sexes but you CHOOSE, you make the CONSCIOUS DECISION of forgetting about the countless men and women who are actually fighting for what feminism really means. Do any of the self acclaimed feminists I mentioned strike you as “radical” or “wanting women to be superior”?
If you don’t support both men and women, and you call yourself a feminist, you’re not! Simple as that. Just because the crazy mentally ill ones are the “loudest” doesn’t mean they’re the majority. I don’t know if you noticed, but the loud ones are almost always the crazy ones.
The KKK is a Christian moment, do you consider them to be the representation of Christianity just because they are the ones being the loudest? In this case, I’m saying they’re the loudest because they actually killed people. Hitler claimed his movement was a Christian movement, and he was pretty loud, are you going to let him represent Christianity? If you do it for one, you gotta do it for both, right? Unless you wanna be a hypocrite.
Western feminism makes no sense to me
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No. I don’t consider it the man’s fault if they are both drunk. Not every feminist believes the way you think they do. In my PERSONAL opinion, you lose the ability to consent when you are too drunk or high to speak coherently and fluently. If both parties are slurring their words and wobbling, I believe they both lose the ability to consent. If neither party can consent, there really is no perpetrator, and I can understand why it can be a tough case in a court of law.
I’m talking about the countless men and police officers who outright try to place blame on the victims based on what the victim was wearing and or what drug they were under the influence of. Something that should never be said is “Well if you weren’t dressed like a whore, he wouldn’t have thought you were into it.”
When a man gets raped by a woman without being drugged or without the woman holding a gun to his head, sometimes it’s not taken seriously because the man is almost always physically capable of pushing the bitch off. I’m not saying it shouldn’t be taken seriously but that is something to at the very least consider.
It happens less to men because they are physically stronger, bigger (which means it usually takes more alcohol to get them drunk, and when men are drunk, they’re still big and strong, but now they’re likely not thinking straight, and if something were to happen, the woman is likely physically incapable of pushing him away.)
I believe all rape cases should be taken seriously, however, women are undeniably the most targeted because they are physically weaker. That being said, women still have rights that we need to fight for.
Also, I do realize that women in America still have it much better off that women in other countries, but that doesn’t mean our problems doesn’t exist. My mom was knocked out and raped in front of my baby sister. My boyfriend was also raped as a small child. The weaker you are, the more targeted you are. Both children and women have almost a 0% percent chance of being able to defend themselves against someone bigger and stronger unless they have a weapon or training. Men don’t have to be trained to be lethal. The only women you see that have a chance of being able to defend themselves with their hands/feet alone are mixed martial art fighters, such as Cyborg. The average woman doesn’t stand a chance to the average man.
This makes me think of the “Black Lives Matter” movement. When I was like 15, I would say “But all lives matter!” Duh no shit. All lives matter. Black people have a specific ongoing problem that needs to be addressed, but that’s not to say no other race matters. Just like people who fight for women’s rights aren’t saying that men don’t matter. We’re only trying to say that we have a specific problem that needs to be addressed. You men can feel free to start your own movement if you feel that you need to. There are plenty of men that are feminists as well, do they not care about their own sex?
Here’s just some of the famous male people who claim to be feminists.
Daniel Radcliffe
Patrick Stewart
Mark Ruffalo
Eddie Vedder
David Schwimmer
Ezra Miller
John Legend
Jon Hamm
Seth Meyers
Louis C.K.
Prince Harry
Ryan Gosling
Daniel Craig
Andy Samberg
Will Smith
Ashton Kutcher
Obama
Harry Styles
Chris Martin
Ian Somerhalder
Chris Hemsworth
Forrest Whitaker
Tom Hardy
Matt Damon
Here’s some famous women who claim to be feminists.
Ashley Judd
Jessica Chastain
Beyoncé
Geena Davis
Kristen Bell
Patricia Arquette
Lena Dunham
Emma Watson
Shonda Rhimes
Amy Schumer
Jennifer Lawrence
Ava DuVernay
Tina Fey
Charlize Theron
Zooey Deschanel
Eva Longoria
Reese Witherspoon
And there are so much more respectable feminists of both sexes but you CHOOSE, you make the CONSCIOUS DECISION of forgetting about the countless men and women who are actually fighting for what feminism really means. Do any of the self acclaimed feminists I mentioned strike you as “radical” or “wanting women to be superior”?
If you don’t support both men and women, and you call yourself a feminist, you’re not! Simple as that. Just because the crazy mentally ill ones are the “loudest” doesn’t mean they’re the majority. I don’t know if you noticed, but the loud ones are almost always the crazy ones.
The KKK is a Christian moment, do you consider them to be the representation of Christianity just because they are the ones being the loudest? In this case, I’m saying they’re the loudest because they actually killed people. Hitler claimed his movement was a Christian movement, and he was pretty loud, are you going to let him represent Christianity? If you do it for one, you gotta do it for both, right? Unless you wanna be a hypocrite.