Were the actions of this woman morally justified?

The following may or may not be based on a true story that I am privy to. Whether it actually happened is irrelevant.

A woman is having an issue with a man who anonymously makes threatening phone calls to her. This man goes into detail about her daily routine, indicating he has the ability to enact his threats. The woman reports this to the police, who vaguely tell her they will look into it. She suspects they don't care or don't believe her. The same thing happens again, this time with the added mention that going to the police will only make things worse; when she reports it, she is essentially told by the police to fuck off, but with more words in an air of artificial politeness. Fearing for her life as the caller's threats become more detailed, she hires a contractor to solve the problem. (Some would say the contractor is a "mercenary", "hitman" or "hired gun" in a tone as if they were bad things, but let's be realistic here and say they ultimately are capable of at least as much good as bad; we must focus on the motives of not the sword but the hand that wields it. Ethically questionable as their methods may be, there's not always a place for moral unambiguity in the real world, as in this situation. Regardless, this is about the woman's actions, not the contractor's.)

The contractor uses his technical ability and impeccable investigative abilities to trace the source of the call (the harasser had used techniques to keep himself hidden), then hunts down and kills the harasser. During his mission, the contractor finds evidence suggesting the harasser stalked multiple women and may at some point have actually raped and murdered one or more. He speculates to himself that had she not made use of his services, she would have been a victim. The calls stop and it's likely that lives have been saved, however, a contracted killing has occurred.

The question is: were the actions of the woman in this scenario moral?

Yes, it was just of her to do that. It served the greater good. 39
Her actions were amoral, neither good nor bad. 20
Her actions were immoral. She has comitted an evil act. 9
Morality does not exist, so the question has no answer. 10
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  • FocoUS

    Hiring a mercenary is a little much. She could've hired a detective. It's cheaper, legal, and once the evidence is found the detective can work with the police.

    What she did does not fall under murder in self defense. So she'll be in trouble with law.

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  • Yumazing

    Other- The police in that story are fucking idiots.

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  • Lynxikat

    Hmm... tough question. But I guess I'll say yes.

    But if you wanted to go with the route for the "not killing option", she would have hired someone to locate this person and find out everything about him and then report all of this info to the police... if they still do nothing, then my opinion of the police is truly higher than it should be.

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    • taciturn

      Especially considering this woman hired a contract killer without knowing that this person "may at some point have actually raped and murdered one or more" (whatever that means). I don't think the ends necessarily justify the means. At the point that the contractor discovered decent evidence of possible rape or murder, the woman should have tried to contact the police with this information.

      If the police still refused to do anything, then 1) fuck the police, 2) call Dexter Morgan, 3) have the stalker killed.

      Also, dear OP: if you want to distance yourself from a situation that clearly did happen, just say "this is a hypothetical story".

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  • noatomsk

    I don't know, I don't care.

    She saved her life, and potentially the lives of others. I see what she did as being correct. Morality is subjective.

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  • dom180

    I don't think so. She ought to have kept contacting the police until they eventually listened to her.

    For all she knew, the harasser could have been a prank caller.

    You say this is about the woman's actions, not the contractor's. I say because the woman hired the contractor knowing the contractor's ability and intentions, she is morally responsible for everything he did; the two are bound together. I believe killing a man without a trial is always unjust, and she is as responsible for his murder as the contractor is.

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    • dom180

      Btw, good question OP.

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  • Nokiot9

    Be careful. Hiring a 'contractor', a good one. Like a ex black water op, costs a lot of money and a lot of times they'll go to the police if they think what ur asking them to do is TOO illegal. I'd have found the fool myself and hog tie him infront of who ever he was threatening and harassing. Then I'd probably cut his tongue out, cauterize it so he doesn't bleed out, and send him on his bastard way. Guarantee u, he will NEVER even look sideways at a woman ever again. Dead men learn no lessons.

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  • darkbeetlebot

    Morality is just an illusion created by humans to prevent chaos. It has no physical form and thus only relies on influential lies.

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  • lufa

    We have some sick ideas that place the value of a crazy sadistic stalker on the same level as a decent law-abiding person.

    Under our idiotic laws if a person acts in self-defense and ends up killing their attacker, they end up going to jail.

    I think we need a revolution in legal thinking and stop treating scumbags as if their life matters as much as the rest of us.

    When I was young I made the foolish mistake of hanging out with kids who I thought were 'cool' but they turned out to be petty criminals.

    I can tell you from first-hand experience, these people have no hearts, they're sadistic, lack empathy and are dangerous. Fortunately I wised up quick and stopped hanging around with the bad crowd.

    Obviously not all of them are 'evil', but I think especially violent offenders need to locked up for good or heavily monitored their whole life. A good person's life is more valuable to society than a criminal type. Time to start breeding out the evil people.

    In response to this story, if this is accurate, then I support her actions-the world is better off without stalkers and serial killers. If in reality it was a cover for killing an innocent man then of course I don't support it.

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  • Rhuarc

    Should have not killed the man, should have turned him into the police.

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    • Rhuarc

      The "hitman" that is.

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  • bleach_baby

    When she hired him, she didn't know he may have raped or murdered anyone. Threatening someone does not justify murdering them.

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  • lots of thrillers are built on this premise and they are frustrating viewing, she goes back and back and the cops sit around eating donuts joking and ignoring , a hired gun sounds dangerous when a smacking down a dark lane would suffice (and cheaper)

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  • kismetie

    She did what she thought she had to do. I don't blame her or the hitman.

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  • randomguy111

    1. She had no choice to take her own action as the police would not listen which leads to:
    2. Therefore she had to higher a contractor or a detective.
    3. She was morally incorrect to higher the contractor as the contractor could have killed an innocent person whereas the detective would have forced the police to take action.

    Overall the woman would not be completely guilty because she had to take her own steps as the police would not listen. She could have reported the police but there is then the question that the police could have been in trouble and in turn caused more trouble for her.

    There are so many problems arising from this kind of scenario but personally I think the woman was morally correct in the end as the suspect turned out to be a murderer/rapist so killing the suspect did more good to society than going through the normal proceedings and would have also done economically good to society as well - saving court hearings and if guilty, the money to pay for a death sentence (if legal in the country or state).

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  • Runaway

    I chose amoral because I think that what she did was both parts equal and necessary. We have no idea what may have happened had she told a detective (maybe the police would have blown it off once more) so the contractor may have been needed, who knows..

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  • SoccerStud88

    cliff notes plz

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    • Shackleford96

      Man stalks woman by harassing her with threatening phone calls. Woman tries to warn police about potential badman that wants to kill her, but the police don't listen. Woman gets fed up and hires a "hitman" who tracks down the stalker and kills him. The hitman finds evidence that the stalker was a rapist and a killer and the woman would have been his next victim.

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      • SoccerStud88

        wow that man is messed up in the head

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        • Shackleford96

          Yes, but do you think that the woman's actions in this scenario are morally justified (that is what the poll was asking in the first place)?

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          • SoccerStud88

            well its either prey or get preyed...or something like that

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  • Darkoil

    If someone rings you up and threatens you are you just in having them murdered. Hahaha.

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  • Who is this hired hitman? James bond, FBI? Technology to trace calls?

    Anyway, to the point. Yes, it was right of her to do so. The hitman deserves a reward. If you ask me, anyone that does the job the law is supposed to do, the it's a bargain.
    Luckily for some, there are men willing to do the jobs the law isn't willing to do.

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