It is explainable, but you are fundamentally incorrect in your reasoning processes, and in some of the conclusions that you have drawn from this.
The notion that the Universe was 'made' [by some unknown external force], is fundamentally incorrect. One can never understand the actual nature of the Universe, in this way. This archaic concept, is a stumbling block, and should be avoided.
I agree with you, that in the Universe, there is space and time. There is also space outside of the Universe.
We need to first understand, what is space?
Many people think of space as something external, but this is incorrect. Space is all around you, and within you. Everything you sense (massenergy bodies) is actually mostly empty space. [Note: there is actually much quarkenergy within this space, but we will temporarily disregard this.]
If you take away the massenergy, what are you left with? 'Empty space', correct?
So, next we need to define: what is space? We know that space is a three dimensional field. We also hypothesize that space is infinite. That's what we know about space (without the massenergy and quarkenergy constituents). So space, by itself, is, a three-dimensional infinite field [of nothingness].
It is mathematically and physically impossible to take nothing away from nothing, or to take infinity away from infinity.
Space has always existed.
Please be patient, and next we will explain time...
Note: Space does have additional physical properties, but this is inter-related with massenergy and quarkenergy within space.
So, now we need to understand, what is time?
In order to do this, we need to bring the massenergy bodies, back into our 'empty space'.
Time can be understood easily, by anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligence.
Think about it in these two ways:
If you bring our Solar System back into 'empty space', imagine that you are observing the Earth-Moon System, from a vantage point in space, where you can observe it's progression in orbit around the Sun. It takes the Earth-Moon System, a particular amount of time, for it to make one complete orbit around the Sun. This is what we describe as one sidereal year, or 365.256363004 mean solar days.
But, 'time', also can be measured on an atomic or subatomic level. Atoms have a natural tendency to vibrate. It takes a particular amount of time for one of these atoms to oscillate (to move back and forth). This is the basic principle of how an atomic clock works.
So, 'time' can be understood as a property of massenergy within space.
Why would i need to ask questions about your theories. However, the reason as to why you go as in depth you did about space is quite strange. The fact that you stated that there "is" (as though giving a definate fact) space outside the universe is quite strange, it leads me to believe as though our technology has come far enough to view outside the very edges of the universe itself, or that you are a being that does not hail from this universe. However i doubt that you have done or infact proven any of my previous evaluations. Space must always exist, as space as you stated, and im sure anyone would well know, space is more or less mass, without mass (space) nothing can truly exist the way you put it. You know what. I cant even be bothered to question as to why you went into so much detail as to prove another theory. If you added another comment, i would have said that you were just trying to make yourself beleive that what you say is actually true, you have went far to much into something so minor for my tastes, i dont know why it is, maybe in a quest to try and prove your "intelligence" to others and maybe even yourself. Im led to believe you are from a foreign nation, as "Quark Energy" as you decribed it, does not exist, well. In mainstream science, maybe a pagan deity can shed some light? The closest relative i know of is "Dark Energy". Another thing you go on to say is that I implied that our universe was created by an external force, or whatever. Infact I disagree with this, as people believe god made the universe in some way, shape or form, i was disagreeing with that answer, hence the title of the thread.
You say a theory is incorrect, it is impossible to disprove a theory, with another theory, or should i say, without hard evidence or proof of what the begginging of the universe is true or false. I think you unconciously said "Please be patient, and next 'WE' will explain time..."
This leads me to believe you got your information from another person or outside sources, or that you were with someone when you conjured your theory, it leads me to beleive whether this is even your theory or even your own evidence. For someone who likes to talk on a "Isitnormal" thread as though they are making a speech for a nobel prize makes me wonder if I should consider anything you said at all, infact I wonder if you are a troll, or an incredbly stupid individual... well, "collective mind" shall i say? The depth you went into about mass energy, how you dabble in special relativity. I wont attempt to say your "theory" (that is to say IF its even yours) is incorrect, as i am not idiotic enough to do so on a forum such as this.
"GOD" (padron the pun) knows who you are trying to impress. But the lengths you went to, to do so. Is quite amusing, i will say, nearly every letter you typed, was an utter waste of time. Infact, every letter i typed bored me, it was like talking to wikipedia, very boring i feel like even reading your statement wasted my own time. Its just asking our views on god, not on space and time, unless the two are related, this isnt the "attempt to disprove everyones theories" thread. Get a grip. Haha
Please stop your rambling.
You will get nowhere by rambling.
You are making things far more complex, than they need to be.
You have continued to draw incorrect assumptions, unfounded conclusions and have once again made a major factual error.
What I had written, is not "my theory". My theory, is "The Universal Parametric Theory". What I had written, is mostly well known and well established facts, developed by many other people.
It is prerequisite knowledge, needed to understand the Universe, no matter which Professor of Physics or Professor of Cosmology you speak with. This should be readily understandable by an astute 5th Grade student. I would like to see that you are smarter than that.
I have already asked (very nicely and repeatedly), to please stop using the generic Anglo-Germanic term for a 'deity', unless you specify which deity you are speaking about.
A generic term, is not a deity.
If you can't grasp this simple concept, how will you ever be able to understand the Universe, even at a basic level?
Space outside of the Universe is not strange at all. This common mistaken belief, might have started when Professor Stephen Hawking, had stated that it was impossible for an observer to be physically outside of the Universe.
He was incorrect, and has since retracted his statement.
First of all, you need to establish which Universe you are speaking about. I have the sense, that you are still struggling to comprehend the Level 1 Universe, which is our immediate Universe.
You can not 'view' outside of the Level 1 Universe, for the simple fact that massenergy creates a curvature in space through gravitational effect (Albert Eintein).This, however, does not apply to the entirety of the quarkenergy realm (or Quark Realm).
Actually, in fact, I am from another Universe, and so are you. I have explained how this works previously. It is not that difficult to understand. Again, you are making it more difficult than it needs to be, then fly off into a tangent in frustration.
Some of your previous evaluations, I'm sorry, are patently incorrect. It is not I who has proven you incorrect, but many other very intelligent people in Physics and Cosmology. You need to get over this, and correct your errors.
MAJOR ERROR: Space is not mass.
Space is not mass in any way, shape or form.
Mass, is a constituent of massenergy.
This is what Albert Einstein proved (E=mc2).
I only took the massenergy out of space, in a hypothetical way, in order to establish what space actually is, without the massenergy and quarkenergy constituents. Your problem, as well as many other people, is that you have entrapped yourself in this massenergy Universe. You seem to be unable or unwilling to use an abstract concept, and imagine yourself outside of the Level 1 Universe.
If you don't ask questions ["couldn't be bothered"], then you will never find answers.
Please try to keep this in mind, always.
I don't think that understanding the Universe is minor.
Please do not confuse others with terminology that you do not fully understand.
"quarkenergy" and "Quark Realm" are interchangeable, please use the proper form.
We are currently struggling to understand this (myself excepted), and use the terms "Dark Energy" and / or "Dark Matter" for this, which should answer what you had alluded to.
I did not "conjure" my theory.
I reasoned it out step by step, over a period of nearly forty years.
I do not "dabble", in "Special Relativity".
I thoroughly understand Albert Einstein's concepts within both his "Theory of Special Relativity" and "Theory of General Relativity". These are no longer 'theories', as they have been proven by many methodologies.
I'm terribly sorry, if you thought that learning about the actual nature of the Universe, was going to be fun and excitement, in some magically fantastic way!
It is not, but you can have fun along the way.
Ok. I just... cant be bothered to write more than what i am going to do now, its a waste of time. I wish you were intelligent enough to see this. It dissapointing to see you turn something as simple as a post about God, into a scientific debate about the universe. Its pretty weird. Please go here, write your thoughts or whatever here to your hearts content: www.thescienceforum.com/
Dont do this on an Isitnormal forum to feel good about yourself. Goodbye, i wont even give a response to your next statement.
Thanks for "Educating" me :/
You are fundamentally incorrect.
This post is not about a deity.
This post is actually about an unfounded conceptual belief in a generic term.
You continually, make a statement, as a matter of fact (which it is not), in something that does not, or ever did exist. You have submitted yourself to corruption.
This does not mean, that such creatures, did not or do not exist, but that if you continually and steadfastly refuse to elaborate on which deity you are speaking of, how can anyone have a reasonable conversation on this?
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It is explainable, but you are fundamentally incorrect in your reasoning processes, and in some of the conclusions that you have drawn from this.
The notion that the Universe was 'made' [by some unknown external force], is fundamentally incorrect. One can never understand the actual nature of the Universe, in this way. This archaic concept, is a stumbling block, and should be avoided.
I agree with you, that in the Universe, there is space and time. There is also space outside of the Universe.
We need to first understand, what is space?
Many people think of space as something external, but this is incorrect. Space is all around you, and within you. Everything you sense (massenergy bodies) is actually mostly empty space. [Note: there is actually much quarkenergy within this space, but we will temporarily disregard this.]
If you take away the massenergy, what are you left with? 'Empty space', correct?
So, next we need to define: what is space? We know that space is a three dimensional field. We also hypothesize that space is infinite. That's what we know about space (without the massenergy and quarkenergy constituents). So space, by itself, is, a three-dimensional infinite field [of nothingness].
It is mathematically and physically impossible to take nothing away from nothing, or to take infinity away from infinity.
Space has always existed.
Please be patient, and next we will explain time...
Note: Space does have additional physical properties, but this is inter-related with massenergy and quarkenergy within space.
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So, now we need to understand, what is time?
In order to do this, we need to bring the massenergy bodies, back into our 'empty space'.
Time can be understood easily, by anyone with a reasonable amount of intelligence.
Think about it in these two ways:
If you bring our Solar System back into 'empty space', imagine that you are observing the Earth-Moon System, from a vantage point in space, where you can observe it's progression in orbit around the Sun. It takes the Earth-Moon System, a particular amount of time, for it to make one complete orbit around the Sun. This is what we describe as one sidereal year, or 365.256363004 mean solar days.
But, 'time', also can be measured on an atomic or subatomic level. Atoms have a natural tendency to vibrate. It takes a particular amount of time for one of these atoms to oscillate (to move back and forth). This is the basic principle of how an atomic clock works.
So, 'time' can be understood as a property of massenergy within space.
Does this help you?
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Why would i need to ask questions about your theories. However, the reason as to why you go as in depth you did about space is quite strange. The fact that you stated that there "is" (as though giving a definate fact) space outside the universe is quite strange, it leads me to believe as though our technology has come far enough to view outside the very edges of the universe itself, or that you are a being that does not hail from this universe. However i doubt that you have done or infact proven any of my previous evaluations. Space must always exist, as space as you stated, and im sure anyone would well know, space is more or less mass, without mass (space) nothing can truly exist the way you put it. You know what. I cant even be bothered to question as to why you went into so much detail as to prove another theory. If you added another comment, i would have said that you were just trying to make yourself beleive that what you say is actually true, you have went far to much into something so minor for my tastes, i dont know why it is, maybe in a quest to try and prove your "intelligence" to others and maybe even yourself. Im led to believe you are from a foreign nation, as "Quark Energy" as you decribed it, does not exist, well. In mainstream science, maybe a pagan deity can shed some light? The closest relative i know of is "Dark Energy". Another thing you go on to say is that I implied that our universe was created by an external force, or whatever. Infact I disagree with this, as people believe god made the universe in some way, shape or form, i was disagreeing with that answer, hence the title of the thread.
You say a theory is incorrect, it is impossible to disprove a theory, with another theory, or should i say, without hard evidence or proof of what the begginging of the universe is true or false. I think you unconciously said "Please be patient, and next 'WE' will explain time..."
This leads me to believe you got your information from another person or outside sources, or that you were with someone when you conjured your theory, it leads me to beleive whether this is even your theory or even your own evidence. For someone who likes to talk on a "Isitnormal" thread as though they are making a speech for a nobel prize makes me wonder if I should consider anything you said at all, infact I wonder if you are a troll, or an incredbly stupid individual... well, "collective mind" shall i say? The depth you went into about mass energy, how you dabble in special relativity. I wont attempt to say your "theory" (that is to say IF its even yours) is incorrect, as i am not idiotic enough to do so on a forum such as this.
"GOD" (padron the pun) knows who you are trying to impress. But the lengths you went to, to do so. Is quite amusing, i will say, nearly every letter you typed, was an utter waste of time. Infact, every letter i typed bored me, it was like talking to wikipedia, very boring i feel like even reading your statement wasted my own time. Its just asking our views on god, not on space and time, unless the two are related, this isnt the "attempt to disprove everyones theories" thread. Get a grip. Haha
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Please stop your rambling.
You will get nowhere by rambling.
You are making things far more complex, than they need to be.
You have continued to draw incorrect assumptions, unfounded conclusions and have once again made a major factual error.
What I had written, is not "my theory". My theory, is "The Universal Parametric Theory". What I had written, is mostly well known and well established facts, developed by many other people.
It is prerequisite knowledge, needed to understand the Universe, no matter which Professor of Physics or Professor of Cosmology you speak with. This should be readily understandable by an astute 5th Grade student. I would like to see that you are smarter than that.
I have already asked (very nicely and repeatedly), to please stop using the generic Anglo-Germanic term for a 'deity', unless you specify which deity you are speaking about.
A generic term, is not a deity.
If you can't grasp this simple concept, how will you ever be able to understand the Universe, even at a basic level?
Space outside of the Universe is not strange at all. This common mistaken belief, might have started when Professor Stephen Hawking, had stated that it was impossible for an observer to be physically outside of the Universe.
He was incorrect, and has since retracted his statement.
First of all, you need to establish which Universe you are speaking about. I have the sense, that you are still struggling to comprehend the Level 1 Universe, which is our immediate Universe.
You can not 'view' outside of the Level 1 Universe, for the simple fact that massenergy creates a curvature in space through gravitational effect (Albert Eintein).This, however, does not apply to the entirety of the quarkenergy realm (or Quark Realm).
Actually, in fact, I am from another Universe, and so are you. I have explained how this works previously. It is not that difficult to understand. Again, you are making it more difficult than it needs to be, then fly off into a tangent in frustration.
Some of your previous evaluations, I'm sorry, are patently incorrect. It is not I who has proven you incorrect, but many other very intelligent people in Physics and Cosmology. You need to get over this, and correct your errors.
MAJOR ERROR: Space is not mass.
Space is not mass in any way, shape or form.
Mass, is a constituent of massenergy.
This is what Albert Einstein proved (E=mc2).
I only took the massenergy out of space, in a hypothetical way, in order to establish what space actually is, without the massenergy and quarkenergy constituents. Your problem, as well as many other people, is that you have entrapped yourself in this massenergy Universe. You seem to be unable or unwilling to use an abstract concept, and imagine yourself outside of the Level 1 Universe.
If you don't ask questions ["couldn't be bothered"], then you will never find answers.
Please try to keep this in mind, always.
I don't think that understanding the Universe is minor.
Please do not confuse others with terminology that you do not fully understand.
"quarkenergy" and "Quark Realm" are interchangeable, please use the proper form.
We are currently struggling to understand this (myself excepted), and use the terms "Dark Energy" and / or "Dark Matter" for this, which should answer what you had alluded to.
I did not "conjure" my theory.
I reasoned it out step by step, over a period of nearly forty years.
I do not "dabble", in "Special Relativity".
I thoroughly understand Albert Einstein's concepts within both his "Theory of Special Relativity" and "Theory of General Relativity". These are no longer 'theories', as they have been proven by many methodologies.
I'm terribly sorry, if you thought that learning about the actual nature of the Universe, was going to be fun and excitement, in some magically fantastic way!
It is not, but you can have fun along the way.
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Ok. I just... cant be bothered to write more than what i am going to do now, its a waste of time. I wish you were intelligent enough to see this. It dissapointing to see you turn something as simple as a post about God, into a scientific debate about the universe. Its pretty weird. Please go here, write your thoughts or whatever here to your hearts content: www.thescienceforum.com/
Dont do this on an Isitnormal forum to feel good about yourself. Goodbye, i wont even give a response to your next statement.
Thanks for "Educating" me :/
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You are fundamentally incorrect.
This post is not about a deity.
This post is actually about an unfounded conceptual belief in a generic term.
You continually, make a statement, as a matter of fact (which it is not), in something that does not, or ever did exist. You have submitted yourself to corruption.
This does not mean, that such creatures, did not or do not exist, but that if you continually and steadfastly refuse to elaborate on which deity you are speaking of, how can anyone have a reasonable conversation on this?
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You are clinging on to an archaic and corrupted religious belief system, for some unknown reason, instead of conversing openly on such matters.
Time to grow up!!!