Nah. I correctly identified the bottom line: Death count.
It's the classic "trolley problem" of philosophy: There's a train that can't be stopped and two paths it can take. One path has one person in the way and the other has five. It's not a pretty situation but you flip the switch so that it only hits one.
The vaccine is rolling out sooner than expected and soon this will all be over, with less having died than had we not taken the precautions we did. I chose and choose the path with less death.
The implication wasn't that it would likely be eradicated. That's why I said the coronavirus will continue to mutate and that vaccines will be necessary.
What /has/ happened regarding the flu, however, is that it's been checked and managed. We live in a world where you don't have to worry much about getting it if you keep up with your vaccines. That's our next goalpost regarding COVID-19. Then these lockdowns won't be necessary.
🤣🤣🤣, we dont even have a flu vaccine here(third world country), we tough it out everytime.
Face it, you pro mask people wanted to force your masks down our throats, and you lost. It was perhaps a battle of ideologies. Next time come at us with guns, and maybe you will be more successful.
And neither the flu or the coronavirus would currently be sufficiently capable of outright wiping everyone out here either, even without vaccines, not even close actually, but it would still mean countless lost lives via deaths that were easily preventable.
So long as you don't have vaccines in your country, more people are dying than would be if you did. That's just a hard fact. I'm sorry to hear you don't have them.
As for masks, it was never a game, but if you insist on seeing it as one, we certainly didn't "lose" in my country as well as most highly developed countries. You have to have them to go in most places and even around most people. I'm sorry to hear stupidity won out over there.
You're right that it was a battle of ideologies though. Honestly I never expected this to be a political issue. I might constantly say conservatives do a lot of dumb shit but I can honestly say that if someone went back in time and told my past self this was coming and that conservatives were going to try to get out of wearing masks, I'd have called bullshit. That just seems too stupid to actually believe.
This doesn't even seem political. It's just common sense like not running out into the middle of traffic. It's like bullets are flying and I tell a conservative, "Here! Put on this bulletproof vest!"
I would have just presumed they would say, "Thanks, bro!"
Instead I got, "No! Bulletproof vests don't work! Lots of people live from being shot! You'll never take my freedom! I have never been more inconvenienced in my life!"
Like what the actual fuck? Just put the fucker on. Sure, I called them stupid, but until corona I had NO IDEA it was THIS bad. It's kind of sad almost. Life must be very confusing and scary with that crippled of a brain.
I honestly thought the left and right would not argue on this at all as it's a common sense issue like not drinking bleach, which... uhhh... moving on.
I thought the only people we'd have to watch were kids, the mentally challenged, and people like habitual drunk drivers.
Because COVID-19 was new, didn't yet have a vaccine, was contagious (unlike cancer and heart attacks), yet had an end in sight (again unlike cancer, heart attacks, and so many other things).
It made and makes sense to hinder it spreading as much as possible until people are vaccinated for it as frequently as they are for the flu.
to want to punch people who complain when others arent wearing a mask?
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Nah. I correctly identified the bottom line: Death count.
It's the classic "trolley problem" of philosophy: There's a train that can't be stopped and two paths it can take. One path has one person in the way and the other has five. It's not a pretty situation but you flip the switch so that it only hits one.
The vaccine is rolling out sooner than expected and soon this will all be over, with less having died than had we not taken the precautions we did. I chose and choose the path with less death.
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well lets hope that covid doesn't mutate like the flu does, for all your belief in your vaccines and all.
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Oh it already has and will continue to unless eradicated, but my vaccines will keep up just like they do with the flu. Science is a nifty thing.
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and is flu eradicated due to the vaccines?
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The implication wasn't that it would likely be eradicated. That's why I said the coronavirus will continue to mutate and that vaccines will be necessary.
What /has/ happened regarding the flu, however, is that it's been checked and managed. We live in a world where you don't have to worry much about getting it if you keep up with your vaccines. That's our next goalpost regarding COVID-19. Then these lockdowns won't be necessary.
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🤣🤣🤣, we dont even have a flu vaccine here(third world country), we tough it out everytime.
Face it, you pro mask people wanted to force your masks down our throats, and you lost. It was perhaps a battle of ideologies. Next time come at us with guns, and maybe you will be more successful.
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And neither the flu or the coronavirus would currently be sufficiently capable of outright wiping everyone out here either, even without vaccines, not even close actually, but it would still mean countless lost lives via deaths that were easily preventable.
So long as you don't have vaccines in your country, more people are dying than would be if you did. That's just a hard fact. I'm sorry to hear you don't have them.
As for masks, it was never a game, but if you insist on seeing it as one, we certainly didn't "lose" in my country as well as most highly developed countries. You have to have them to go in most places and even around most people. I'm sorry to hear stupidity won out over there.
You're right that it was a battle of ideologies though. Honestly I never expected this to be a political issue. I might constantly say conservatives do a lot of dumb shit but I can honestly say that if someone went back in time and told my past self this was coming and that conservatives were going to try to get out of wearing masks, I'd have called bullshit. That just seems too stupid to actually believe.
This doesn't even seem political. It's just common sense like not running out into the middle of traffic. It's like bullets are flying and I tell a conservative, "Here! Put on this bulletproof vest!"
I would have just presumed they would say, "Thanks, bro!"
Instead I got, "No! Bulletproof vests don't work! Lots of people live from being shot! You'll never take my freedom! I have never been more inconvenienced in my life!"
Like what the actual fuck? Just put the fucker on. Sure, I called them stupid, but until corona I had NO IDEA it was THIS bad. It's kind of sad almost. Life must be very confusing and scary with that crippled of a brain.
I honestly thought the left and right would not argue on this at all as it's a common sense issue like not drinking bleach, which... uhhh... moving on.
I thought the only people we'd have to watch were kids, the mentally challenged, and people like habitual drunk drivers.
Utter rubbish. People die all the time, from heart attacks, from cancer, from infections, why is only covid being celebrated?
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Because COVID-19 was new, didn't yet have a vaccine, was contagious (unlike cancer and heart attacks), yet had an end in sight (again unlike cancer, heart attacks, and so many other things).
It made and makes sense to hinder it spreading as much as possible until people are vaccinated for it as frequently as they are for the flu.
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you speak like covid is a thing of the past already.
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Sorry. I'm from the future. At least it feels like it sometimes.