Think that mental disease should be avoided if possible in newborns?

Maybe it's because I come from a very medically-forward family of doctors, but all my life I've felt that were I to someday get pregnant and discover that my unborn child had a mental disability, I would immediately abort it. I also feel that people who raise children who are mentally retarded are being burdens on society - what will happen to that child when they are unable to care for it? It will live on the government's dime and suck up money that could be going to people who are poor or trying to care for children, or who are legitimately physically disabled.

My opinion does not extend to people who suffer from things like ADD, OCD or Bipolar, and I'm not sure why. I only feel this way towards people with diseases like Downs that heavily impair their ability to do things like hold down a normal job or contribute meaningfully to society. I'm also NOT one of those people that thinks homosexuality is a mental disease - some of my best friends are gay. I'm only talking about very serious, very impairing lifelong disorders that prevent victims from doing much of use to the world.

And I'm sure there are a few examples of patients of this sort going on to do things like compete in the Olympics or write novels or whatever, but on the whole most of them do not end up doing such things - most of them end up bagging your groceries, and that's if they're -really- competent.

Is it wrong of me to find it cruel that a parent would be so desperate as to bring a child into the world under conditions like this, knowing the harsh and inhuman fate that kid would have someday?

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  • PoisonFlowers

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnylM1hI2jc

    I understand what you are saying, but find your absolute judgement on who is and isn't capable of a meaningful contribution to society, what constitutes to a life of value, who should and shouldn't live disturbing.

    Before talking about "easing the burden on society" from people who are impaired cognitively, perhaps more attention should be paid to those who are perfectly healthy and yet who still live out of other people's pockets. Also, why the bias against mental impairment versus physical? There are people under both of those groups that need lifelong care.

    What's stopping you from saying that anyone who, for whatever reason, has run to the end of their "usefulness" should be given leave from life?

    "And I'm sure there are a few examples of people of this sort going on to do things like compete in the Olympics or write novels or whatever, but on the whole most of them do not end up doing such things - most of them end up bagging your groceries, and that's if they're -really- competent." - That could be a statement about anyone haha!

    Something else that caught my eye: "I'm also NOT one of those people that thinks homosexuality is a mental disease - some of my best friends are gay."
    What exactly is the relevance of this particular little tidbit???

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    • littleone

      I strongly agree.

      People with Downs are generally the most affectionate, out-going, loveable people. We all have something to contribute, and that is "useful". The world needs love and smiles more than anything else!
      That being said, I admire the bravery of parents who raise disabled children - it looks like a terribly difficult task.

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  • ld7070

    I completely Agree! My uncle has downs and I can't imagine my life with out him! Just because he can't have a job doesn't make him a burden. He couldn't help the he was born with downs and personally I wouldn't love him or Anyone more or less if they did or didn't have downs

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  • so_damn_unpretty

    I've always kinda felt this way but it makes me feel guilty.. but its like survival of the fittest right? If these people didnt have doctors and nurses taking care of them, most would die off as natural selection. Especially severely mentaly incapable people for example... my sister in law works in a facility where the patients can never even leave because they will literally go on killing rampages/punching people and things like that. They have foam rooms for when they freak out and try to kill themselves by running into walls. She has a body guard at all times and has been punched in the face/slapped/threatened to be raped and killed/shit thrown at etc. on a regular basis. It seems kinda pointless all the money -nurses, social service workers, doctors, meds, food, living arangements for these people. It's kinda sad really.. they will never learn and explore the outside world, in a way its almost cruel keeping them alive.

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  • Your heartless. God made them for a reason. They are special and have great things to contribute. I know a girl at my school who is disabled. She is so sweet and kind and innocent. She didn't ask to be that way. She just is. She can't help it. It's not her fault. And if her parents aborted her they would never get over the guilt. Thats murder.

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  • Julianna

    Doctors recommended that my aunt abort because of deformalities in my cousin but she refused. My cousin has minor problems but is nothing like the doctors said she would be. They really don't know so they should stop trying to play God. Not only do these children bring love and happiness, they also teach patience and compassion. Stop being so selfish.

    Also, visit overpopulationisamyth.com

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  • averonne

    Some people believe that homosexuality is an impairing mental disorder. I'm not one of those people, hence why I mentioned it.

    And I do not believe that anyone who is "no longer of use" should be killed - I think you misread what I wrote. I believe that if you knowingly bear a child who will have a lifelong disorder that prevents them from integrating with society and contributing, that you should end the pregnancy. I guess you could say that my opinion extends to unborn children with debilitating physical disorders that will kill them shortly - 5-10 years down the line, or which will leave them severely disabled to the point where they'll need to be hooked up to a machine their whole lives.

    It's not like, "Oh, you're a paraplegic? Okay, time to ship you off to the death camp." I'm only talking about disorders that literally impair a person to the point where they can hardly do ANYTHING.

    Additionally, although people with Downs are very affectionate, the large amount of people I know who do not have someone disabled in their family (or who work with mentally disabled people) are actually afraid of Downs patients and their overfriendliness. They claim it makes them a bit uncomfortable to be hugged or touched by them when they are at the grocery store or something of the sort. So sure, they spread smiles to a limited number of people. There are a million other things that can do that as well, or better.

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  • antinormo

    Its normal for a discriminative mentally normal bigot to hate people who is not mentally normal be it mentally ill,mental diorder or mental disabilities.
    It is because the mentally normal people are the most discriminative and genocidal bigots in this world.
    go fuck yourself you discriminative mentally normal bigot.

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  • ld7070

    **** disagree

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  • Redeadhunter

    Completely, fully, 100% agree with you. Society doesn't appear to allow natural selection much, anymore. Let a few of them go, and the rest of society pays a chunk of tax money to hire remedial class teachers. Money that could have gone to hiring Honors and AP teachers.

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  • USMAwife

    I have to agree with you.

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  • I have pretty much the same view so don't worry.

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  • antinormo

    i believe all mentally normal should be killed for their actions against the mentally ill,people with mental diorder and people with mental disabilities.

    http://www.mentalhealthstigma.com/historyonics.html

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  • NotSoLaky

    No one in my family has a mental disease but when i see a retarded kid in my school start biting himself and needs a social worker to literally walk him like a dog i feel so sick inside and i dont u derstand while they still keep him alive he wouldnt even notice if he were dieing. He is completely brain dead. Like u said he is sucking up our tax money. U know what also pisses me off? When they include retarded kids in plays and social events. I want to tell them to stop lieing to themselves and acting like their normal. They dont even know whats goin around them

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  • bisonlace

    Yeah I feel the same way too. I'm somewhat a Darwinist and agree. I mean, in nature, if a cub or pup is born differently it's killed or left uncared for because it won't succeed in life. It's weak.

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    • PoisonFlowers

      Yeah, I know. We should just get rid of the practice of medicine altogether. No more foolish human fiddling with the prolonging of lives, saving of lives, cures and treatments. Hey, that's the overpopulation issue solved.

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