"There is no reason to suggest that only one trait is responsible for this"
I think there is. If you look at Hugh Latimer, Joan of Arc, the rise (and fall) of Fascism, and even something as simple as an individual death you'll start to see a pattern appear before you for the trait that all non-entities share.
I won't share what that is yet, but I think it's by one virtue alone that civilization is built.
But why Chance? Sure random things like weather, hailstorms, attitudes, etc have had massive influence on the course of struggles(and by extension the momentum of human history) but it was never the determining factor in the embittered struggle for domination over the human mind.
The thought gets repeated quite a bit on television/culture but what basis is there for it? What reasoning?
"Sure random things like weather, hailstorms, attitudes, etc have had massive influence on the course of struggles(and by extension the momentum of human history) but it was never the determining factor in the embittered struggle for domination over the human mind."
Of course it has. Individual deaths are caused by weather all the time. Tsunamis? Hurricanes? Volcanic eruption? Whole civilisations have been destroyed by those things before now. Ever heard of Pompei? A whole city, decimated by effectively random volcanic eruption.
I've searched and searched my mind for a common factor, but I just can't find one. Therr are too many examples, too many variables for them to have anything in common.
The Romans at Pompeii died because they were ignorant of what was coming. With knowledge, they could have avoided that fate but a man's actions now reflect his fate then.
Joan of Arc was deceived and betrayed and made into a non-entity; her deception hinged on her ignorance. The man who dies in a car accident dies because of ignorance, on his part and the other driver's.
The world and all it's problems exist because of ignorance toward what to do. Think about it: Even this site itself exists because we're all ignorant on some issue. Even myself.
If Ignorance is what threatens existence, then Shrewdness is the virtue of it.
Against the shrewd man, no human power can prevail.
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And you are right about it being Strength, Human Will in some cases but I see these things flowing from Shrewdness.
Rome proved itself fit for existence by destroying Numantia but that strength was founded in Shrewdness. Over years, their pragmatic economic and social policies had made them a power upon the earth.
I'm bothered by the accusation that I'm patronizing. My intent was to begin a discussion.
You are presuming that humans are capable of infinite knowledge, which I believe is untrue. If humans are incapable of infinite knowledge, then we are not able to predict our every problem in the future. We cannot be expected to predict our every problem without potential for infinite knowledge. If this is the case, there will always be unpredictable futures, events we must put down to chance.
If we consider theories of physics, it is thought that there are infinite numbers of parallel "universes", and infinite new others are being created at the speed of thought. For every conceivable outcome of an event in the whole universe, a new universe must be made to accommodate every possible outcome.
If we take that there are infinite possible outcomes to every event, and each event has to happen in one "universe" or another, then it is impossible to predict which outcome will occur in our universe, regardless of the bounds of shrewdness.
You might want to disregard those last paragraphs; I'm a bit rusty on this and I didn't re-research it, and someone normally points out where I went wrong when this happens. But my first point stands, nonetheless.
And you are definitely beginning discussion, that is for sure.
The potential for anything always exist. Whether it comes into being hinges on something else entirely.
But yes, the totality of Shrewdness will never be known to man. If it did he'd be God. It's not his place to answer the Great Question, only to pursue it as much as he can.
"humans aren't capable of infinite knowledge"
If that's true, then we can never know for sure. So either way the possibility exists if only the potential of it.
But in the land of the obese, the fat man is thin so it's man's hope then to glean as much knowledge to himself so he can endure longer than other entities.
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"There is no reason to suggest that only one trait is responsible for this"
I think there is. If you look at Hugh Latimer, Joan of Arc, the rise (and fall) of Fascism, and even something as simple as an individual death you'll start to see a pattern appear before you for the trait that all non-entities share.
I won't share what that is yet, but I think it's by one virtue alone that civilization is built.
But why Chance? Sure random things like weather, hailstorms, attitudes, etc have had massive influence on the course of struggles(and by extension the momentum of human history) but it was never the determining factor in the embittered struggle for domination over the human mind.
The thought gets repeated quite a bit on television/culture but what basis is there for it? What reasoning?
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"Sure random things like weather, hailstorms, attitudes, etc have had massive influence on the course of struggles(and by extension the momentum of human history) but it was never the determining factor in the embittered struggle for domination over the human mind."
Of course it has. Individual deaths are caused by weather all the time. Tsunamis? Hurricanes? Volcanic eruption? Whole civilisations have been destroyed by those things before now. Ever heard of Pompei? A whole city, decimated by effectively random volcanic eruption.
I've searched and searched my mind for a common factor, but I just can't find one. Therr are too many examples, too many variables for them to have anything in common.
What do you think the common factor is? If you can see one, I'd love to hear your opinion.
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I'll tell you but its just my thinking for now.
The Romans at Pompeii died because they were ignorant of what was coming. With knowledge, they could have avoided that fate but a man's actions now reflect his fate then.
Joan of Arc was deceived and betrayed and made into a non-entity; her deception hinged on her ignorance. The man who dies in a car accident dies because of ignorance, on his part and the other driver's.
The world and all it's problems exist because of ignorance toward what to do. Think about it: Even this site itself exists because we're all ignorant on some issue. Even myself.
If Ignorance is what threatens existence, then Shrewdness is the virtue of it.
Against the shrewd man, no human power can prevail.
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And you are right about it being Strength, Human Will in some cases but I see these things flowing from Shrewdness.
Rome proved itself fit for existence by destroying Numantia but that strength was founded in Shrewdness. Over years, their pragmatic economic and social policies had made them a power upon the earth.
I'm bothered by the accusation that I'm patronizing. My intent was to begin a discussion.
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You are presuming that humans are capable of infinite knowledge, which I believe is untrue. If humans are incapable of infinite knowledge, then we are not able to predict our every problem in the future. We cannot be expected to predict our every problem without potential for infinite knowledge. If this is the case, there will always be unpredictable futures, events we must put down to chance.
If we consider theories of physics, it is thought that there are infinite numbers of parallel "universes", and infinite new others are being created at the speed of thought. For every conceivable outcome of an event in the whole universe, a new universe must be made to accommodate every possible outcome.
If we take that there are infinite possible outcomes to every event, and each event has to happen in one "universe" or another, then it is impossible to predict which outcome will occur in our universe, regardless of the bounds of shrewdness.
You might want to disregard those last paragraphs; I'm a bit rusty on this and I didn't re-research it, and someone normally points out where I went wrong when this happens. But my first point stands, nonetheless.
And you are definitely beginning discussion, that is for sure.
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The potential for anything always exist. Whether it comes into being hinges on something else entirely.
But yes, the totality of Shrewdness will never be known to man. If it did he'd be God. It's not his place to answer the Great Question, only to pursue it as much as he can.
"humans aren't capable of infinite knowledge"
If that's true, then we can never know for sure. So either way the possibility exists if only the potential of it.
But in the land of the obese, the fat man is thin so it's man's hope then to glean as much knowledge to himself so he can endure longer than other entities.