The pay gap is a myth

If the pay gay actually existed, I wouldn't see the point in hiring men when I can hire women to do the exact same thing, but cheaper.

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  • pixie_dust

    In my entire adult, working life, I never felt like I was at a disadvantage being female. My mom and grandma both say they felt they were, which I found interesting. It's how our culture has been slowly evolving in the right direction.

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    • How old are you?

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      • pixie_dust

        46

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  • Tinybird

    I read that as gay pap

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  • Correction

    Sure. And the Earth is flat because if it were actually a ball, all the water would fall off.

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  • cumlordvegeta

    Can I have sex with you?

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  • Somenormie

    Wasn't it not a "myth" to begin with?

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  • hauntedbysandwiches

    It's still there but it's not nearly as common as some claim

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  • LloydAsher

    People alson dont take into consideration that women tend to have children and that tends to screw pay because of loss time and experience.

    You get paid what you are worth.

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    • litelander8

      Don’t men have those kids too? Women are expected to give up work/ hours for the kids. Men are not.

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      • LloydAsher

        Yeah but mothers want to be mothers cant fault them for that. But you are also not working so... less pay.

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        • litelander8

          Trust me, I’d rather be working. But for some reason, my ex’s job takes precedence over mine when it comes to the kids.

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          • Cable4nerds

            But does the other person take care of the kids when they are not working? Both mother or father, in this case does the father have the kids so that you are available to work at any point? what about child care? Its expensive but people do it. If you can’t, what job pays the bills? Who works said bread winner position? Work with what’s best for the family. Mother or father. Or else work together and figure it out. No moms don’t need to be home all the time but if they can work around a schedule, so can the other father. Has the father (in this case for example - your ex) tried working around a schedule for you to work? Or if you are working currently, does the father have days where you can also work? It’s a team effort if you think about it.

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          • 1WeirdGuy

            I domt believe you. I dont think you would rather be working than being able to take care of your kids and go do what you want. If you got with a wealthy man and he gave you a credit card said buy whatever you want your female brain would kick in and youd immediately start washing the dishes

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            • Cable4nerds

              What is the difference between someone male or female OR Mother or father in this case - between being “given a million dollars” to stay at home and not work again vs. Having someone who’s bringing home enough money to where the other person feels like they don’t Need to work??

              I think it depends on the scenario dude. I know plenty of parents who would rather sit on their ass and pocket their significant others money because they make enough and they feel they don’t have to do shit or are just pieces of shit in general and don’t help out at all out of pure laziness and selfishness. Million dollars or not. I’ve known a few men who have been spoiled by their women because she’s the bread winner and they don’t do shit but sit around and do whatever they want. Kids or no kids.

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            • litelander8

              So if you had a woman with money and didn’t have to work your big man brain would still not stay with the kids and prefer to work? 🤔

              I understand that there are differences between males and females. But the drive to work and taking care of children that both made SHOULD be equal. But no, dudes automatically assume that it’s the woman’s position to tend to the kids.

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            • Damn I gotta try that. Can I borrow your CC?

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        • SwickDinging

          Massive generalisation

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          • LloydAsher

            Still true.

            86.6 of all women become mothers. That's not massively generalizing.

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            • SwickDinging

              I'm not disagreeing that a lot of women have children. I'm saying that you're oversimplifying.

              Just because 86.6% of women end up having children it doesn't mean that they wanted to, or that they would want to take time out of work, or even leave work to become a stay home parent. Every one of those babies born will also have a father. The situation is much more complex than a simple statistic.

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            • bigbudchonger

              Yeah, it's not a generalization. It's statistically sound.

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          • 1WeirdGuy

            Is it though? I wonder how many women really would rather work if they already had more money than they needed and there was no point for thrm to work. I think people almost exclusively work for the paycheck and if they had a guy that made a shit ton of money why would they even go to work? Then they have to go out and put the kid in daycsre which in usa with 2 kids can be like 600 a week.

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            • SwickDinging

              You can get full-time daycare for 2 kids for $600 a week in the USA?! Damn, no wonder people rave about that place lol. Where I live that would cost about $1100 a week.

              Anyway, I still think you're assuming too much. Who says that those kids go to daycare just because mum works? I know lots of stay at home dads. Also, I know plenty of women who love their jobs and don't want to miss out on professional opportunities by taking a year off to be with their kids. Especially my doctor friends. Doctors who take family leave before they've finished their training scheme end up falling behind quite quickly. Same applies to a lot of self-employed people. They lose out on so much business and relationship building, plus they usually built their business from scratch and feel like it's part of them, so they don't want to give it up.

              In fact, I'm the only woman I know who is a full time stay home mum. All of my other mum friends either went back to work almost straight away, or only took a few months off and then went back. Even the ones who breastfed had the option to pump.

              I think people need to open their minds a bit. Two people make a baby. They both have equal rights to want to persue a career, and both have equal responsibility to care for their children. They should work out between them what is best for them and their children. Sometimes that will be mum staying at home, but that's only one option.

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      • KholatKhult

        Over here we have paid maternity leave for women and fathers for up to 2 years in certain cases.

        Not to be a filthy blood-sucking commie but there was theory of how capitalism discourages fatherhood. It’s most easily seen in the imprisonment of men versus women. “The only thing men are good for is the economy” was a half-joke from a popular radical feminist communist.

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        • LloydAsher

          Well if the work force doubled than pay would stagnate. Not saying working females is bad at all. Just saying it was still a relatively recent cultural shift that we still have to weigh the consequences of.

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          • KholatKhult

            That’s because your capitalist system has failed you and most of your people are too blind to see it or are in full denial.
            It shouldn’t take two 5 days a week, 9-5, working adults to raise one child - and most of the time that’s still not enough.

            And automation and outsourcing all your labor is killing you as well.

            A stay at home mother and a father that works 60+ hours a week to barely support both mother and child is a retarded system. Also makes the father nothing but a paycheck, mother’s who support this system are retarded as well

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  • rockyrocks

    “I wouldn't see the point in hiring men when I can hire women to do the exact same thing, but cheaper.”

    one reason the pay gap is a thing is because people believe that women will not do as good of a job as men. that’s why men were more likely to be hired, because they were (and sometimes are) seen as better suited than women

    i don’t believe that this is a problem anymore in the modern U.S., but i’m sure that other countries have this issue

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    • In 99% of professions, gender doesn't really matter. There are probably some where it actually does matter though, like firefighting.

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      • RoyyRogers

        There is a gap but it does not have to do with gender. It has to do with taxes and negotiating. If John, sarah and Terry all make same pay. Yet one is married, one is a mom of 3, and one is a single parent the pay are checks gonna be different. What also changes this is what you ask for in interview. Some might ask for higher and get it while other only asked for base rate. Which is why some offices say not to discuss pay. Since than some realize they are being screwed over

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      • rockyrocks

        that is whyyy i said “seen as” rather than just saying that they are. gender doesn’t matter, but people THINK it does, which is why the wage gap exists.

        also, change that to 100% lmao

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        • 1WeirdGuy

          For most of my late teens and early 20s I worked at a shipping company and we had to load packages into trailers. The packages from 70lbs to 160lbs it was my job to lift them from the floor into the end of the trailer. Then the loaders job was to grab those and drag them into the back. The women could almost never do this. There was a few that were beasts but really that was probably less than 5% of them were able to do this. I got annoyed that they were being hired for this position. The guys rarely had problems doing the work.

          If a woman was working the trailer I had to lift it into the back of the trailer, climb into the trailer, then pull it all the way to the back while she watched me.

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        • No, I'll stick to 99%. There are some professions that I think should be reserved for a specific gender. Firefighting should be for guys only, and preschool teacher for women only. Those are the only 2 I can think of though.

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