I'm asking for logical consistency from you. I'm going to need to make some corrections here.
1. I didn't say being black is bad. I said it should be okay for police to profile, look at the most logical areas and suspects first. The harsh reality is it will get the job done faster. Also, it's Asians, not whites, who commit the least crime. I admit this as a white man because I live in reality.
2. I already said that's the only kind of profiling I support and that I don't agree with profiling by IQ or education. If we did, it would again be Asians on top by the way anyway, but again I only support profiling to prevent crime and save lives. Lives > feelings.
3. Me feeling that gender reassignment surgery and gay marriage should be illegal doesn't have a damn thing to do with free speech. You're free to say you support it and I'm free to say I don't. I don't support the outcome resulting from anything except voting.
But my free speech is being limited. I'm not even allowed to be and say I'm homophobic most places now while you were allowed to say you supported gay marriage when it was illegal. THIS is my free speech being hindered. As long as I support laws only changing legally and I don't assault anyone I should be perfectly free to discuss my sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, and transphobic ideas.
Imagine if you could be banned from Twitter for saying you support LGBT. This is a blatant attack on my free speech and it's undeniable.
1/2.Race isn’t the only thing that correlates with crime. It’s not even the best predictor, that’s poverty. If you want to profile to prevent crime and save lives, you should want them to profile poor people regardless of race. And, of course, the leading cause of poverty is lack of education, so uneducated people have to be included in that. The fact that black people commit more crimes is because they face more barriers to education and are more likely to be in poverty, it’s not something inherent to being black. (To be clear, in no way do I support profiling poor or uneducated people, but if you thinking profiling is acceptable and want to do it to reduce crime and save lives, you should want them to do so in the most effective way possible.)
3.You’re free to say you wouldn’t have gender reassignment surgery or that you wouldn’t marry somebody of the same gender, but when you say other people shouldn’t have those rights, of course that’s infringing on their rights. Come on, that’s just silly.
Well, Twitter isn’t the government and they’re not putting people in jail, they’re a privately owned company that has the right to write their own rules and enforce them how they see fit, so that has nothing to do with freedom of speech, but I don’t have to just “imagine” that happening to people on the left, because it DID happen - on Parler. They eagerly banned leftists and anybody who disagreed with the mob…and that wasn’t a free speech issue either.
1/2. I never said it was or wasn't inherent to blacks. I'm saying it's a fact that they commit more crime for some reason or another. Therefore profiling them saves lives. I'm fine with profiling by poverty as well even though it's almost the same thing. It's common sense that some white trash guy is more likely to shoot you than a white man in a business suit as well. Whatever saves lives. Lives will always be more important than feelings about profiling.
3. You're pulling a switcheroo here. You said I was infringing in their freedom of speech and thought, not rights. Yes, I would like to take these specific rights away from them, legally via voting.
You're actually right here and I almost didn't use Twitter because of that but I did because Twitter is so well-known. Twitter can ban me because they don't like my name. But the point is their mindset is based on what's going on in general as well. Us homophobic people will be verbally attacked in the general public, even by other homophobic people on the right, just for admitting we're homophobic. It's treated like a bad word when it's just a position. One half of the population is sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, and transphobic and we have to live in shadows because we agreed to play these rules and it's insane. It doesn't happen with the overall picture. Liberals can admit they're liberals. Conservatives can admit they're conservatives. Liberals can admit they're LGBT. But conservatives can't admit nearly all of us are sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, and transphobic. It's incredibly cowardly of my side that we've allowed ourselves to be beaten into submission like this.
1/2.Profiling by race would take away resources from profiling by poverty, which is far more effective than profiling by race.
3.Fair, but the point is that all freedoms are equal - if you don’t support all freedoms for everybody, then you don’t support freedom. There is no legal way to take rights away from people, as any such law would be unconstitutional and struck down by the Supreme Court if it got that far.
Being an asshole in general is frowned upon by society. Being transphobic, racist, arabophobic(more accurate then islamophobic imo), sexist, and homophobic(call it TRASH for short) is just one form of being an asshole. If I walked around telling people how much I hate Bible thumpers and how I want to make churches illegal, that wouldn’t be well received either, because I’d be an asshole.. That doesn’t mean I can’t do it, just like it doesn’t mean you can’t be TRASH, it just means people can and will react, which is their right.
Also, being LGBT and being TRASH are not opposite sides of the same coin like liberal or conservative. The opposite of being LGBT is simply being cisgender and straight, and nobody will have a problem with you admitting that you’re cis and straight. The opposite of being TRASH would be someone who hates cis straight people and wants to take away their rights, it’s just that there are so few(if any) people who feel that way that there’s not even a real term for them. Heterophobic? Americaphobic? Chrisrtianophobic? Cisgenderist? Caucasist? If there were any HACCCs out there, they too would have to either live in the shadows or deal with the ridicule of the public just like TRASH people do, because again, being an asshole is frowned upon.
1/2. We don't really need resources for either. I'm just saying don't judge cops for using common sense and treating people who are more likely to be criminals like they're more likely to be criminals. That's free. In fact we'll save a little money by eliminating the need to investigate and punish cops for using common sense.
3. If not supporting every single freedom means I don't support ultimate freedom, so be it. I don't support the freedom to murder. I don't support the freedom to rape. I don't support the freedom to make bombs. I don't support the freedom to smoke or sell meth. And I don't know what you're talking about as literally every law in existence is a limitation of freedom so of course it can be legally done. Don't be silly.
I'm sorry it messes with your acronym, but no, that's not more accurate. Remove the Islam problem and Arabs are among those I'm least racist against. The Islam is the problem.
Go ahead and publicly hate Bible thumpers and say you would like to make church illegal. In fact, you could make a career out of it as an atheist comedian. They're everywhere. But I would have my career cancelled for saying I'm homophobic. The left really somehow succeeded in making it an actual bad word.
I didn't say LGBT and SHIRT are antonyms. There are just some parallels, especially if by "LGBT" we mean "pro-LGBT" and throw feminism and racial and religious equality in there. And that's what I mean because that's basically the leftist position while those of us on the right are extremely sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, and transphobic.
If being an asshole was frowned upon then LGBT would be frowned upon. Racial equality would be frowned upon. Feminism would be frowned upon. This is how half of the population feels. Somehow the left just succeeded in making it standard that the right hide our beliefs. And don't let any other rightest ever bullshit you with that cringe denial mess again. Yes, we are SHIRT as fuck. As fuck. Make no mistake about it. When it's just us around we're way more open about it. I'm ready to act that way in public too. To wear my SHIRT ideals on my sleeve. It's what we all want in the end. I just have the balls to go ahead and admit it to the left now.
We might disagree but I'm sure my honestly at the very least is a breath of fresh air since my side opted to just lie at some point like doormats.
1/2.Common sense is poor people are more likely to commit more crimes, not black people, so of course cops should be punished for wasting time by not following common sense. Personally, I think facts are more important than feelings, so each case should be investigated on its own merit with no regard to what has happened in unrelated cases.
Also, this is one big difference between the left and the right. You tell someone on the left that poor people are more likely to commit crimes and they would probably say we need to help people get out of poverty so they don’t commit crimes, while someone on the right reacts by preemptively punishing poor people as criminals. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, of course, but one has actually been proven to reduce crime and the other makes things worse.
3.Did…you just compare gender reassignment surgery and gay marriage to rape and murder? And then call me silly? Rape and murder affect other people. Gender reassignment surgery and gay marriage don’t, other than hurting the feelings of people who don’t like when somebody does something they wouldn’t do. Rape and murder infringe on the rights of other people to live and not be raped. There is no given right to not see trans people or gay people exist.
Speak for yourself. The vast majority of conservatives are more arabophobic than islamophobic. Plenty of white Americans convert to Islam and it doesn’t bother them, while they hate Arabic people of any religion. So, TRASH it is.
Give me a break with this whole “canceled” nonsense. Admitting to being homophobic would get you a job on Fox News or a political office in a red state before you even finished the sentence.
There are no parallels in any way between LGBT and TRASH. That’s like defending a murderer choking somebody to death by saying it’s not fair that one person is allowed to breathe but another isn’t allowed to stop them from breathing.
What do being pro-LGBT, pro racial equality, and pro feminism have to do with being an asshole? Those things are literally the exact opposite of being an asshole. That’s why they’re not frowned upon, because they’re good things. Being nice to other people = good, being mean to other people = bad. Accepting people for being who they are when they’re not hurting anybody = being nice to other people, attacking and insulting people for being who they are when they’re not hurting anybody = being mean to people.
Believe me, I’m well aware of how TRASH people act when they think they’re only around other TRASH. I grew up in a house full of TRASH, I’ve spent many years working with TRASH. They’re miserable to be around and then they get offended when people don’t want to be around them anymore. Go figure.
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I'm asking for logical consistency from you. I'm going to need to make some corrections here.
1. I didn't say being black is bad. I said it should be okay for police to profile, look at the most logical areas and suspects first. The harsh reality is it will get the job done faster. Also, it's Asians, not whites, who commit the least crime. I admit this as a white man because I live in reality.
2. I already said that's the only kind of profiling I support and that I don't agree with profiling by IQ or education. If we did, it would again be Asians on top by the way anyway, but again I only support profiling to prevent crime and save lives. Lives > feelings.
3. Me feeling that gender reassignment surgery and gay marriage should be illegal doesn't have a damn thing to do with free speech. You're free to say you support it and I'm free to say I don't. I don't support the outcome resulting from anything except voting.
But my free speech is being limited. I'm not even allowed to be and say I'm homophobic most places now while you were allowed to say you supported gay marriage when it was illegal. THIS is my free speech being hindered. As long as I support laws only changing legally and I don't assault anyone I should be perfectly free to discuss my sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, and transphobic ideas.
Imagine if you could be banned from Twitter for saying you support LGBT. This is a blatant attack on my free speech and it's undeniable.
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1/2.Race isn’t the only thing that correlates with crime. It’s not even the best predictor, that’s poverty. If you want to profile to prevent crime and save lives, you should want them to profile poor people regardless of race. And, of course, the leading cause of poverty is lack of education, so uneducated people have to be included in that. The fact that black people commit more crimes is because they face more barriers to education and are more likely to be in poverty, it’s not something inherent to being black. (To be clear, in no way do I support profiling poor or uneducated people, but if you thinking profiling is acceptable and want to do it to reduce crime and save lives, you should want them to do so in the most effective way possible.)
3.You’re free to say you wouldn’t have gender reassignment surgery or that you wouldn’t marry somebody of the same gender, but when you say other people shouldn’t have those rights, of course that’s infringing on their rights. Come on, that’s just silly.
Well, Twitter isn’t the government and they’re not putting people in jail, they’re a privately owned company that has the right to write their own rules and enforce them how they see fit, so that has nothing to do with freedom of speech, but I don’t have to just “imagine” that happening to people on the left, because it DID happen - on Parler. They eagerly banned leftists and anybody who disagreed with the mob…and that wasn’t a free speech issue either.
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1/2. I never said it was or wasn't inherent to blacks. I'm saying it's a fact that they commit more crime for some reason or another. Therefore profiling them saves lives. I'm fine with profiling by poverty as well even though it's almost the same thing. It's common sense that some white trash guy is more likely to shoot you than a white man in a business suit as well. Whatever saves lives. Lives will always be more important than feelings about profiling.
3. You're pulling a switcheroo here. You said I was infringing in their freedom of speech and thought, not rights. Yes, I would like to take these specific rights away from them, legally via voting.
You're actually right here and I almost didn't use Twitter because of that but I did because Twitter is so well-known. Twitter can ban me because they don't like my name. But the point is their mindset is based on what's going on in general as well. Us homophobic people will be verbally attacked in the general public, even by other homophobic people on the right, just for admitting we're homophobic. It's treated like a bad word when it's just a position. One half of the population is sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, and transphobic and we have to live in shadows because we agreed to play these rules and it's insane. It doesn't happen with the overall picture. Liberals can admit they're liberals. Conservatives can admit they're conservatives. Liberals can admit they're LGBT. But conservatives can't admit nearly all of us are sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, and transphobic. It's incredibly cowardly of my side that we've allowed ourselves to be beaten into submission like this.
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1/2.Profiling by race would take away resources from profiling by poverty, which is far more effective than profiling by race.
3.Fair, but the point is that all freedoms are equal - if you don’t support all freedoms for everybody, then you don’t support freedom. There is no legal way to take rights away from people, as any such law would be unconstitutional and struck down by the Supreme Court if it got that far.
Being an asshole in general is frowned upon by society. Being transphobic, racist, arabophobic(more accurate then islamophobic imo), sexist, and homophobic(call it TRASH for short) is just one form of being an asshole. If I walked around telling people how much I hate Bible thumpers and how I want to make churches illegal, that wouldn’t be well received either, because I’d be an asshole.. That doesn’t mean I can’t do it, just like it doesn’t mean you can’t be TRASH, it just means people can and will react, which is their right.
Also, being LGBT and being TRASH are not opposite sides of the same coin like liberal or conservative. The opposite of being LGBT is simply being cisgender and straight, and nobody will have a problem with you admitting that you’re cis and straight. The opposite of being TRASH would be someone who hates cis straight people and wants to take away their rights, it’s just that there are so few(if any) people who feel that way that there’s not even a real term for them. Heterophobic? Americaphobic? Chrisrtianophobic? Cisgenderist? Caucasist? If there were any HACCCs out there, they too would have to either live in the shadows or deal with the ridicule of the public just like TRASH people do, because again, being an asshole is frowned upon.
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1/2. We don't really need resources for either. I'm just saying don't judge cops for using common sense and treating people who are more likely to be criminals like they're more likely to be criminals. That's free. In fact we'll save a little money by eliminating the need to investigate and punish cops for using common sense.
3. If not supporting every single freedom means I don't support ultimate freedom, so be it. I don't support the freedom to murder. I don't support the freedom to rape. I don't support the freedom to make bombs. I don't support the freedom to smoke or sell meth. And I don't know what you're talking about as literally every law in existence is a limitation of freedom so of course it can be legally done. Don't be silly.
I'm sorry it messes with your acronym, but no, that's not more accurate. Remove the Islam problem and Arabs are among those I'm least racist against. The Islam is the problem.
Go ahead and publicly hate Bible thumpers and say you would like to make church illegal. In fact, you could make a career out of it as an atheist comedian. They're everywhere. But I would have my career cancelled for saying I'm homophobic. The left really somehow succeeded in making it an actual bad word.
I didn't say LGBT and SHIRT are antonyms. There are just some parallels, especially if by "LGBT" we mean "pro-LGBT" and throw feminism and racial and religious equality in there. And that's what I mean because that's basically the leftist position while those of us on the right are extremely sexist, homophobic, islamophobic, racist, and transphobic.
If being an asshole was frowned upon then LGBT would be frowned upon. Racial equality would be frowned upon. Feminism would be frowned upon. This is how half of the population feels. Somehow the left just succeeded in making it standard that the right hide our beliefs. And don't let any other rightest ever bullshit you with that cringe denial mess again. Yes, we are SHIRT as fuck. As fuck. Make no mistake about it. When it's just us around we're way more open about it. I'm ready to act that way in public too. To wear my SHIRT ideals on my sleeve. It's what we all want in the end. I just have the balls to go ahead and admit it to the left now.
We might disagree but I'm sure my honestly at the very least is a breath of fresh air since my side opted to just lie at some point like doormats.
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1/2.Common sense is poor people are more likely to commit more crimes, not black people, so of course cops should be punished for wasting time by not following common sense. Personally, I think facts are more important than feelings, so each case should be investigated on its own merit with no regard to what has happened in unrelated cases.
Also, this is one big difference between the left and the right. You tell someone on the left that poor people are more likely to commit crimes and they would probably say we need to help people get out of poverty so they don’t commit crimes, while someone on the right reacts by preemptively punishing poor people as criminals. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, of course, but one has actually been proven to reduce crime and the other makes things worse.
3.Did…you just compare gender reassignment surgery and gay marriage to rape and murder? And then call me silly? Rape and murder affect other people. Gender reassignment surgery and gay marriage don’t, other than hurting the feelings of people who don’t like when somebody does something they wouldn’t do. Rape and murder infringe on the rights of other people to live and not be raped. There is no given right to not see trans people or gay people exist.
Speak for yourself. The vast majority of conservatives are more arabophobic than islamophobic. Plenty of white Americans convert to Islam and it doesn’t bother them, while they hate Arabic people of any religion. So, TRASH it is.
Give me a break with this whole “canceled” nonsense. Admitting to being homophobic would get you a job on Fox News or a political office in a red state before you even finished the sentence.
There are no parallels in any way between LGBT and TRASH. That’s like defending a murderer choking somebody to death by saying it’s not fair that one person is allowed to breathe but another isn’t allowed to stop them from breathing.
What do being pro-LGBT, pro racial equality, and pro feminism have to do with being an asshole? Those things are literally the exact opposite of being an asshole. That’s why they’re not frowned upon, because they’re good things. Being nice to other people = good, being mean to other people = bad. Accepting people for being who they are when they’re not hurting anybody = being nice to other people, attacking and insulting people for being who they are when they’re not hurting anybody = being mean to people.
Believe me, I’m well aware of how TRASH people act when they think they’re only around other TRASH. I grew up in a house full of TRASH, I’ve spent many years working with TRASH. They’re miserable to be around and then they get offended when people don’t want to be around them anymore. Go figure.