you do know the only current treatment for gender dysphoria is to allow the transgender person to transition with hormones/surgery, right? other than that there's no magic pill or therapy that cures/treats gender dysphoria or takes it away, which is basically impossible since research has found transgenders people's brains are wired more towards their preferred gender which is why they are transgender in the first place.
I suspect that's much rarer than people simply being brainwashed and convinced it's a route to attention and support. Even still that means very little. In fact, many mental illnesses have physical reasons behind them. This doesn't change that they manifest as mental illnesses.
Does it make more sense to research ways to fix their brain or to allow them to drastically alter their entire bodies to match their flawed brain and drown in hormones they're not meant to take? If a severe schizophrenic (and schizophrenia has physical causes) claims they feel like if they don't cut their possessed legs off the sun will explode, do you work on curing their mental illness or do you get right on chopping their legs off?
i never denied it wasn't a mental illness, gender dysphoria is literally a medical issue. i highly doubt there is even a way to find a cure for the brain, i mean look at autism, they can't even find a permanent brain cure for that or any other mental illness.
your example is flawed, we need our legs to function as it is a limb. a ftm cutting off extra breast tissue to make their chest flatter does not impact any important functions that they need to live, they'll still function normally in day to day life.
someone altering their genitals also does not impact anything when done correctly, they can still use their bodily functions normally. cutting a leg off, it's gone forever and you will not be able to use it because your leg will just be a stump. transgender people still have working genitals and functions even if they alter their bodies.
comparing a leg to still working genitals that are there or any other transgender surgery doesn't make any sense.
That's fair actually. Let's just make it breasts then. A schizophrenic says their breasts are possessed by demons and wants them cut off, or a schizophrenic wants their breasts cut off for any reason at all stemming from their mental illness. Continue hoping for and working for a cure, or chop their breasts off because of their delusions born of mental illness?
the difference with that is there are medications out there already for people with schizophrenia that help reduce the symptoms and severity of the illness. there's no medication that helps reduce the symptoms of gender dysphoria. for the sake of your argument lets say none of the medications help this person at all and they still want their breasts reduced.
i honestly don't see an issue why they should not be allowed to get breast surgery, as people get breast reduction surgery all the time and alter their bodies for much less (wanting to look prettier) than doing it because it actually does something important like helping their mental state.
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you do know the only current treatment for gender dysphoria is to allow the transgender person to transition with hormones/surgery, right? other than that there's no magic pill or therapy that cures/treats gender dysphoria or takes it away, which is basically impossible since research has found transgenders people's brains are wired more towards their preferred gender which is why they are transgender in the first place.
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I suspect that's much rarer than people simply being brainwashed and convinced it's a route to attention and support. Even still that means very little. In fact, many mental illnesses have physical reasons behind them. This doesn't change that they manifest as mental illnesses.
Does it make more sense to research ways to fix their brain or to allow them to drastically alter their entire bodies to match their flawed brain and drown in hormones they're not meant to take? If a severe schizophrenic (and schizophrenia has physical causes) claims they feel like if they don't cut their possessed legs off the sun will explode, do you work on curing their mental illness or do you get right on chopping their legs off?
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i never denied it wasn't a mental illness, gender dysphoria is literally a medical issue. i highly doubt there is even a way to find a cure for the brain, i mean look at autism, they can't even find a permanent brain cure for that or any other mental illness.
your example is flawed, we need our legs to function as it is a limb. a ftm cutting off extra breast tissue to make their chest flatter does not impact any important functions that they need to live, they'll still function normally in day to day life.
someone altering their genitals also does not impact anything when done correctly, they can still use their bodily functions normally. cutting a leg off, it's gone forever and you will not be able to use it because your leg will just be a stump. transgender people still have working genitals and functions even if they alter their bodies.
comparing a leg to still working genitals that are there or any other transgender surgery doesn't make any sense.
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That's fair actually. Let's just make it breasts then. A schizophrenic says their breasts are possessed by demons and wants them cut off, or a schizophrenic wants their breasts cut off for any reason at all stemming from their mental illness. Continue hoping for and working for a cure, or chop their breasts off because of their delusions born of mental illness?
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the difference with that is there are medications out there already for people with schizophrenia that help reduce the symptoms and severity of the illness. there's no medication that helps reduce the symptoms of gender dysphoria. for the sake of your argument lets say none of the medications help this person at all and they still want their breasts reduced.
i honestly don't see an issue why they should not be allowed to get breast surgery, as people get breast reduction surgery all the time and alter their bodies for much less (wanting to look prettier) than doing it because it actually does something important like helping their mental state.
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Catering to a mental illness is the opposite of helping someone's mental state. It's aiding their illness and victimizing them.
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again, until there is a medication or surgery that permanently cures gender dysphoria, allowing them to transition is the only current cure we have.