If everything is completely deterministic, that means it should all be entirely predictable - if you could convert it into data had the nouse to know what all the data meant - right? With perfect accuracy, too. If everything in the universe is just a chain of physical cause and effect reactions (albeit on an unimaginably microscopic level), that should be quite easy to predict, if you had a supercomputer so massive as to be able to handle all that data. I'm not saying I disagree with you, just having a bit of discussion with myself.
I want to be able to argue with you're main premise but I can't. Well played.
Although I do disagree that everything in the universe caused everything else (even taking into account the problem of backwards causality). For example, something microscopic like the electrical energy in my head representing thoughts I'm having right now does not effect formation of civilizations trillions of light years away. It's something too small, trying to change something too far away.
I also disagree that there's no demarcation to be made between an individual and their environment, or that to make a distinction between the two is useless. But I've not formed my thoughts on that yet.
Our bodies are made up of material that was once at the the center of stars. We are a part of the eternal. We are an aggregation of effects. The effect may rearrange but it will still propagate, just in a different form. Nothing is actually destroyed.
Universe may not be deterministic as the quantum mechanics indicates. But, if it is deterministic then it should be predictable if all the variables are known.
"Although I do disagree that everything in the universe caused everything else"
Yes that's not the case, but rather each effect has multiple causes and multiple causes produce multiple effects all these causes and effects are interconnected forming a causal chain.
Subject and object are imagination of the brain. We feel the ownership of our body because the brain creates a body map or a self image. Our sense of self can be extended outside our bodies. An example of this is "The Rubber Hand Illusion" in which the brain takes the ownership of a rubber hand and thinks of it as a body part.
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If everything is completely deterministic, that means it should all be entirely predictable - if you could convert it into data had the nouse to know what all the data meant - right? With perfect accuracy, too. If everything in the universe is just a chain of physical cause and effect reactions (albeit on an unimaginably microscopic level), that should be quite easy to predict, if you had a supercomputer so massive as to be able to handle all that data. I'm not saying I disagree with you, just having a bit of discussion with myself.
I want to be able to argue with you're main premise but I can't. Well played.
Although I do disagree that everything in the universe caused everything else (even taking into account the problem of backwards causality). For example, something microscopic like the electrical energy in my head representing thoughts I'm having right now does not effect formation of civilizations trillions of light years away. It's something too small, trying to change something too far away.
I also disagree that there's no demarcation to be made between an individual and their environment, or that to make a distinction between the two is useless. But I've not formed my thoughts on that yet.
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Our bodies are made up of material that was once at the the center of stars. We are a part of the eternal. We are an aggregation of effects. The effect may rearrange but it will still propagate, just in a different form. Nothing is actually destroyed.
Universe may not be deterministic as the quantum mechanics indicates. But, if it is deterministic then it should be predictable if all the variables are known.
"Although I do disagree that everything in the universe caused everything else"
Yes that's not the case, but rather each effect has multiple causes and multiple causes produce multiple effects all these causes and effects are interconnected forming a causal chain.
Subject and object are imagination of the brain. We feel the ownership of our body because the brain creates a body map or a self image. Our sense of self can be extended outside our bodies. An example of this is "The Rubber Hand Illusion" in which the brain takes the ownership of a rubber hand and thinks of it as a body part.