What does the tobacco industry have to do with anything?
Why is it wrong for me to want him to share a cigarette with me when I need to take a smoke break?
When we are at the movies or a restaurant that doesn't have a smoking patio and I have to take a smoke break I hate having to go outside all by myself and smoke a few cigarettes hurriedly all alone and I'd rather him join me and share a cigarette with me!
Oh no its you Becky. We liked you. Come on you are smart enough to see this is wrong. Do I really need to spell it out. Cigarettes are highly addictive, expensive, and inevitably lead to health complications, shorten life expectancy, and kill. They also really only provide relief because you are already addicted. So as a non-smoker with information on what they do there is really no justification for beginning. Yes of course I understand you have these feelings, but acting on them is grossly inhumane.
You are the one killing yourself, he luckily doesn't have this problem. OK if one of you should change it is you. How you could love a person and play with there life like you suggest means you don't really love him. Come on Becky.
The tobacco industry tricked you into thinking there was any reason to smoke in the first place. The entire image of cigarettes being cool was paid for by tobacco companies. They would pay movie directors to make the characters smoke.
I can't tell if you are ignorant as to how dangerous there are or you just don't give a shit about your boyfriends health, or hopefully you just haven't thought this through.
Again this is the cruelest thing I can imagine. Actual evil
You're out of your fucking mind dude. Your addiction to cigarettes is your problem. You're freaking deluded sharing a cigarette never meant anything. I think you need to wildly adjust your attitude or stay away from this man. How you can say you are hopelessly addicted, and wish that he starts as well. How you can say you hope you don't get cancer too are you serious? Do you realize the difference? Cigarettes increase your risk for lung cancer astronomically. The amount of disrespect you have for your boyfriends life is appalling. If you were suicidal would you want him to share that with you too? This is totally ridiculous. You seemed cool from your other posts and I'm sure you are in different ways. But there are no words to describe how cruel this selfish impulse of yours is. Seriously you want your boyfriend to make this choice that in all likelihood will give him a serious amount of health problems and cost lots of money, and all just so you feel less alone how completely pathetic. What on earth are you doing thinking you deserve to be in this man's life? You don't play with people like this. Don't tempt him to make the mistake you did. Fucking hell
Look, I mean we all know cigarettes are dangerous - but so are Big Macs and extra large French fries and jumbo sodas!
Alcohol is dangerous and mills people too - not just from drunk driving
The world is full of toxins and pollutants and mercury and arsenic and other things they allow for "allowable limit"
Like, I remember finding out that the place my high school was built on was an old junk yard dump and the EPA wanted to close it down because it had toxic levels of lead and mercury!!
And I lived in that same neighborhood! Right there surrounded by all those posions !!!
The school board fought closing the school down because they didn't have the money to build a new one and then the EPA or whoever just gave up and said oh well - I guess it was ok for those kids to live there
Most of the kids in my neighborhood school were black or Mexican with a small percentage of poor white trash like my family -
we all came from families where everyone smoked - both my mom and step dad smoked, and after they broke up all her next boyfriends and ex boyfriends all smoked
My dad and step mom smoked too, as did my step sister and my half sister from my dads previous relationship.
My dad died from lung cancer when he was just 49
So yeah I know smoking is bad for you
But where I grew up everyone smoked
When I started smoking every day by age 12 my mother didn't even try to tell me no
I had been sneaking cigarettes from her pack since I was 8 years old
By the time I was 12 I was smoking cigarettes before school and right after school, and would smoke in my room at home or in the living room and watch tv until My mom got home
She didn't like me smoking in front of her at first but that didn't last long - like maybe a few months tops
But I grew up in a house of poison
My step dad and my moms main long term ex boyfriend both worked in the oil field and always had clothes laying around covered in god knows what chemicals
The whole trailer smelled like a mix of diesel fuel and house hold cleaners
Oh and I grew up most of my life right down from a chemical plant of some kind
The trailer park near the plant was much much cheaper
You could always smell it
If you played outside in it you would smell like it too
Like pesticide
I used to cough all the time
I would cough up blood sometimes even as a little kid
I was diagnosed with severe asthma
My mom wanted me to stay indoors more because I was always so sickly as a child
So yeah I smoked because that's the world I grew up in
By the time I was legally able to buy cigarettes I was so hopelessly addicted there was no way I was ever going to quit
I'm sure the cigarettes contributed to my fathers lung cancer - and he smoked cigarettes till the day he died
But you know what else killed him?
Fucking asbestos
He was a contractor - did all kinds of work in old buildings, stripping insulation and stuff
He did alot of work on old power plants and refineries - the companies always wanted contractors to do the work for cheaper than their employees
He said he used to strip the insulation out and just be covered in that white dust of asbestos all over him - caked in his mustache
It makes me so fucking mad when I think about it
We tried to get him in one of those asbestos lawsuits you see advertised on tv
What a croc
They ended up having him settle with a bunch of bankrupt companies who used to manufacture asbestos or whatever
After his lawyers too their cut he only got $35,000
That may sound like a bunch of money and it's more money I ever had in my entire life
But it goes nowhere towards paying for lung cancer treatment
It's like they shouldn't have even bothered with the damn lawsuit to begin with
Anyways
Asbestos and cigarettes killed my father
But if he hadn't worked around all the asbestos maybe he'd still be here
My mother and former step father and her boyfriends are still here and they all smoke
My former step mom is still here and she smokes
My older half sister is in her late thirties and she smokes all the time
So I'm not ignorant
I know smoking is bad for you
It's just that everything is bad for you
We live in a toxic world
Surrounded by posions
So why deny myself the pleasure of cigarettes to try to avoid a little poison ... when I live surrounded in it my whole life
To anyone in the comments who actually does have a brain, cigarettes greatly increase your risk for many diseases. Smokers justify their addiction understandably but ultimately at a certain point they all wish they had the power to control their habit. For these reasons to not have a tobacco addiction is a great gift. Becky you seem very confused about how logic, empathy, and valuing human life works. You see if something negative happens to me. I don't see that as justification or in any way related to wishing that ill upon a loved one. The only relevant information to this conversation are the toll cigarettes take on a persons life, who the fuck cares about your dad dying of asbestos? Do u really think your beta attempt at gaslighting is impressive? This is so weak Becky. I hope very badly your boyfriend can find someone else with a more appropriate grasp on reality, and that you learn what love, or fuck it even what being a decent logical human being is.
Much love but I've made my point. See a therapist for BPD and dont have boyfriends. You've made me too bored I'm not interested in responding any more.
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Why is it wrong for me to want him to share a cigarette with me when I need to take a smoke break?
When we are at the movies or a restaurant that doesn't have a smoking patio and I have to take a smoke break I hate having to go outside all by myself and smoke a few cigarettes hurriedly all alone and I'd rather him join me and share a cigarette with me!
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Oh no its you Becky. We liked you. Come on you are smart enough to see this is wrong. Do I really need to spell it out. Cigarettes are highly addictive, expensive, and inevitably lead to health complications, shorten life expectancy, and kill. They also really only provide relief because you are already addicted. So as a non-smoker with information on what they do there is really no justification for beginning. Yes of course I understand you have these feelings, but acting on them is grossly inhumane.
You are the one killing yourself, he luckily doesn't have this problem. OK if one of you should change it is you. How you could love a person and play with there life like you suggest means you don't really love him. Come on Becky.
The tobacco industry tricked you into thinking there was any reason to smoke in the first place. The entire image of cigarettes being cool was paid for by tobacco companies. They would pay movie directors to make the characters smoke.
I can't tell if you are ignorant as to how dangerous there are or you just don't give a shit about your boyfriends health, or hopefully you just haven't thought this through.
Again this is the cruelest thing I can imagine. Actual evil
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You're out of your fucking mind dude. Your addiction to cigarettes is your problem. You're freaking deluded sharing a cigarette never meant anything. I think you need to wildly adjust your attitude or stay away from this man. How you can say you are hopelessly addicted, and wish that he starts as well. How you can say you hope you don't get cancer too are you serious? Do you realize the difference? Cigarettes increase your risk for lung cancer astronomically. The amount of disrespect you have for your boyfriends life is appalling. If you were suicidal would you want him to share that with you too? This is totally ridiculous. You seemed cool from your other posts and I'm sure you are in different ways. But there are no words to describe how cruel this selfish impulse of yours is. Seriously you want your boyfriend to make this choice that in all likelihood will give him a serious amount of health problems and cost lots of money, and all just so you feel less alone how completely pathetic. What on earth are you doing thinking you deserve to be in this man's life? You don't play with people like this. Don't tempt him to make the mistake you did. Fucking hell
Look, I mean we all know cigarettes are dangerous - but so are Big Macs and extra large French fries and jumbo sodas!
Alcohol is dangerous and mills people too - not just from drunk driving
The world is full of toxins and pollutants and mercury and arsenic and other things they allow for "allowable limit"
Like, I remember finding out that the place my high school was built on was an old junk yard dump and the EPA wanted to close it down because it had toxic levels of lead and mercury!!
And I lived in that same neighborhood! Right there surrounded by all those posions !!!
The school board fought closing the school down because they didn't have the money to build a new one and then the EPA or whoever just gave up and said oh well - I guess it was ok for those kids to live there
Most of the kids in my neighborhood school were black or Mexican with a small percentage of poor white trash like my family -
we all came from families where everyone smoked - both my mom and step dad smoked, and after they broke up all her next boyfriends and ex boyfriends all smoked
My dad and step mom smoked too, as did my step sister and my half sister from my dads previous relationship.
My dad died from lung cancer when he was just 49
So yeah I know smoking is bad for you
But where I grew up everyone smoked
When I started smoking every day by age 12 my mother didn't even try to tell me no
I had been sneaking cigarettes from her pack since I was 8 years old
By the time I was 12 I was smoking cigarettes before school and right after school, and would smoke in my room at home or in the living room and watch tv until My mom got home
She didn't like me smoking in front of her at first but that didn't last long - like maybe a few months tops
But I grew up in a house of poison
My step dad and my moms main long term ex boyfriend both worked in the oil field and always had clothes laying around covered in god knows what chemicals
The whole trailer smelled like a mix of diesel fuel and house hold cleaners
Oh and I grew up most of my life right down from a chemical plant of some kind
The trailer park near the plant was much much cheaper
You could always smell it
If you played outside in it you would smell like it too
Like pesticide
I used to cough all the time
I would cough up blood sometimes even as a little kid
I was diagnosed with severe asthma
My mom wanted me to stay indoors more because I was always so sickly as a child
So yeah I smoked because that's the world I grew up in
By the time I was legally able to buy cigarettes I was so hopelessly addicted there was no way I was ever going to quit
I'm sure the cigarettes contributed to my fathers lung cancer - and he smoked cigarettes till the day he died
But you know what else killed him?
Fucking asbestos
He was a contractor - did all kinds of work in old buildings, stripping insulation and stuff
He did alot of work on old power plants and refineries - the companies always wanted contractors to do the work for cheaper than their employees
He said he used to strip the insulation out and just be covered in that white dust of asbestos all over him - caked in his mustache
It makes me so fucking mad when I think about it
We tried to get him in one of those asbestos lawsuits you see advertised on tv
What a croc
They ended up having him settle with a bunch of bankrupt companies who used to manufacture asbestos or whatever
After his lawyers too their cut he only got $35,000
That may sound like a bunch of money and it's more money I ever had in my entire life
But it goes nowhere towards paying for lung cancer treatment
It's like they shouldn't have even bothered with the damn lawsuit to begin with
Anyways
Asbestos and cigarettes killed my father
But if he hadn't worked around all the asbestos maybe he'd still be here
My mother and former step father and her boyfriends are still here and they all smoke
My former step mom is still here and she smokes
My older half sister is in her late thirties and she smokes all the time
So I'm not ignorant
I know smoking is bad for you
It's just that everything is bad for you
We live in a toxic world
Surrounded by posions
So why deny myself the pleasure of cigarettes to try to avoid a little poison ... when I live surrounded in it my whole life
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You are out of your fucking mind this made me so fucking angry I can't talk to you any more.
To anyone in the comments who actually does have a brain, cigarettes greatly increase your risk for many diseases. Smokers justify their addiction understandably but ultimately at a certain point they all wish they had the power to control their habit. For these reasons to not have a tobacco addiction is a great gift. Becky you seem very confused about how logic, empathy, and valuing human life works. You see if something negative happens to me. I don't see that as justification or in any way related to wishing that ill upon a loved one. The only relevant information to this conversation are the toll cigarettes take on a persons life, who the fuck cares about your dad dying of asbestos? Do u really think your beta attempt at gaslighting is impressive? This is so weak Becky. I hope very badly your boyfriend can find someone else with a more appropriate grasp on reality, and that you learn what love, or fuck it even what being a decent logical human being is.
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And that you get help with your addiction.
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Much love but I've made my point. See a therapist for BPD and dont have boyfriends. You've made me too bored I'm not interested in responding any more.
You are fucking awesome. Marry me 😂
He should come out to the smoking area with you! Smoking there isn't compulsory.