I haven't seen you round here much, Takuto. Are you new?
Very British kind of bating tactic, that - accusing someone implicitly or explicitly of being a filthy rich snobby Tory. If all you wanted was to get a rise out of me I'm not about to defend myself as a non-snob - but to say that I was raised in a small village. There were fewer non-white people there than in my university cities to be sure, but the two BME pupils at my local primary school were popular enough kids. We were practically bombarded with anti-racism morals - and I like to think it did us some good! Certainly, racism was treated as a 'capital crime' at school. To be honest, the racism I've seen is worse in the cities. I know there are places in the UK where many people are mistrusting of Pakistani and Polish people, perhaps because many live within their own sub-communities, work for cheap and undercut British workers economically, and don't participate in British life and culture. But that is not all of them. In any case, most black people I've known from the UK are culturally similar to me and hang out with white people. Maybe because most of them have lived here for at least one generation and have assimilated; maybe because of the Commonwealth. Who knows? It feels awkward even speaking of 'them' and 'us'. I'm not living in the UK at the moment; I'm in mainland Europe, and the difference in the way black people are treated here is noticeable. Here, black people and white people associate far less, and I can actually see more reasons for interracial conflict than in the UK.
By all means have a snoop around my comment history if you want to know any more about my life...
I've been here around 8 months I think.
I'd like to point out that I wouldn't have called you a snob if I had taken into account the possibility of us having totally different backgrounds. Smaller communities have better morals than large cities where racism is abundant. Hate crimes are a big thing but, thankfully, conferences are up and running so heads of police and charities can work together to make tackling racism easier.
I still believe you underestimate the amount of crimes motivated by racism.
Listen sweetie, in the U.S. they sell boxes of ammunition like candy bars. Hand guns are as ubiquitous as black umbrellas. Your blithering about Euopean civil society is absolutely such a naive response to American urban jungles that we can only conclude you are pathologically aloof.
Listen and learn. Then feel the sense of relief that the trouble makers were all deported from England in the 1700s. We're still across the pond making trouble. Hitler's big mistake was that he never realized American cities operate under low level military conflict all the time. Don't be dumb like Hitler was.
Wow Godwin's law came into play pretty bloody quickly there, didn't it? What raw nerve of yours did I just touch? Or are you having a bad day? I might be an English speaker, but that doesn't make my country a sort of cultural 'colony' of the US. We don't know everything about how you live, and I personally wouldn't dare presume to be able to separate the Hollywood from the reality. So I for one just talk about what I know.
Is it really such a 'pathology' then that I respond to America with Europe? Can you respond to Europe with anything but America, and other places you might have lived?
Having spent time on four different continents, I suppose I could digress into a comparative cultural discussion. But this woman fears for her life. That's serious stuff, isn't it?
Well, if you want to digress, nothing's stopping you, and it's not going to hurt anybody. She'll make her decision either way. As I say, all I have to contribute is what I know.
*moan* You are an irresistible woman. I hope you know that. And, I am committed to encourage Mensa level discussion at IIN where ever I can. So okay. Firstly, I must compliment you on your astuteness of Godwin's law. Bernoulli trials, as well as Chi Square sampling methods, and other topics in Advanced Statistics are as alluring to me as honey is to bees.
Secondly, I have been to Southeastern England, and seen black constables in tube stations, and other urban choke point locations. These guys speak the Kings English and have the exact demeanor to encourage trust and orderliness under the implied standards of public conduct that keep London running. In other words, they are culturally integrated. Racial discussion is largely irrelevant.
Now, head across the Atlantic. Intelligent blacks have long since studied at universities under equal opportunity scholarships and moved to the suburbs. They have two parent families that teach their preschoolers how to read and do arithmetic with objects like coins on a floor. Smart kids, no problem.
Ghettos have gotten progressively worse. Alcoholic single mothers washing their fetuses brain away. Drug culture, everyone is illegally armed. Pepper spray doesn't cut it. Shooting your assailant in the leg with a low power .22 round is the minimum effective defensive response.
Your go my friend. I am enjoying this. I think I like you.
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I haven't seen you round here much, Takuto. Are you new?
Very British kind of bating tactic, that - accusing someone implicitly or explicitly of being a filthy rich snobby Tory. If all you wanted was to get a rise out of me I'm not about to defend myself as a non-snob - but to say that I was raised in a small village. There were fewer non-white people there than in my university cities to be sure, but the two BME pupils at my local primary school were popular enough kids. We were practically bombarded with anti-racism morals - and I like to think it did us some good! Certainly, racism was treated as a 'capital crime' at school. To be honest, the racism I've seen is worse in the cities. I know there are places in the UK where many people are mistrusting of Pakistani and Polish people, perhaps because many live within their own sub-communities, work for cheap and undercut British workers economically, and don't participate in British life and culture. But that is not all of them. In any case, most black people I've known from the UK are culturally similar to me and hang out with white people. Maybe because most of them have lived here for at least one generation and have assimilated; maybe because of the Commonwealth. Who knows? It feels awkward even speaking of 'them' and 'us'. I'm not living in the UK at the moment; I'm in mainland Europe, and the difference in the way black people are treated here is noticeable. Here, black people and white people associate far less, and I can actually see more reasons for interracial conflict than in the UK.
By all means have a snoop around my comment history if you want to know any more about my life...
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I've been here around 8 months I think.
I'd like to point out that I wouldn't have called you a snob if I had taken into account the possibility of us having totally different backgrounds. Smaller communities have better morals than large cities where racism is abundant. Hate crimes are a big thing but, thankfully, conferences are up and running so heads of police and charities can work together to make tackling racism easier.
I still believe you underestimate the amount of crimes motivated by racism.
Listen sweetie, in the U.S. they sell boxes of ammunition like candy bars. Hand guns are as ubiquitous as black umbrellas. Your blithering about Euopean civil society is absolutely such a naive response to American urban jungles that we can only conclude you are pathologically aloof.
Listen and learn. Then feel the sense of relief that the trouble makers were all deported from England in the 1700s. We're still across the pond making trouble. Hitler's big mistake was that he never realized American cities operate under low level military conflict all the time. Don't be dumb like Hitler was.
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Wow Godwin's law came into play pretty bloody quickly there, didn't it? What raw nerve of yours did I just touch? Or are you having a bad day? I might be an English speaker, but that doesn't make my country a sort of cultural 'colony' of the US. We don't know everything about how you live, and I personally wouldn't dare presume to be able to separate the Hollywood from the reality. So I for one just talk about what I know.
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Having spent time on four different continents, I suppose I could digress into a comparative cultural discussion. But this woman fears for her life. That's serious stuff, isn't it?
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Well, if you want to digress, nothing's stopping you, and it's not going to hurt anybody. She'll make her decision either way. As I say, all I have to contribute is what I know.
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*moan* You are an irresistible woman. I hope you know that. And, I am committed to encourage Mensa level discussion at IIN where ever I can. So okay. Firstly, I must compliment you on your astuteness of Godwin's law. Bernoulli trials, as well as Chi Square sampling methods, and other topics in Advanced Statistics are as alluring to me as honey is to bees.
Secondly, I have been to Southeastern England, and seen black constables in tube stations, and other urban choke point locations. These guys speak the Kings English and have the exact demeanor to encourage trust and orderliness under the implied standards of public conduct that keep London running. In other words, they are culturally integrated. Racial discussion is largely irrelevant.
Now, head across the Atlantic. Intelligent blacks have long since studied at universities under equal opportunity scholarships and moved to the suburbs. They have two parent families that teach their preschoolers how to read and do arithmetic with objects like coins on a floor. Smart kids, no problem.
Ghettos have gotten progressively worse. Alcoholic single mothers washing their fetuses brain away. Drug culture, everyone is illegally armed. Pepper spray doesn't cut it. Shooting your assailant in the leg with a low power .22 round is the minimum effective defensive response.
Your go my friend. I am enjoying this. I think I like you.