Men chose to take on those things. I was there when it happened. Most of the straight guys I knew couldn't wait to shave their pubes. Women in their lives might have encouraged them to try it, but those guys, like most guys, aren't going to do something like that if it's not more for them than someone else. It's quite the opposite for women. There's a lot of cultural pressure for women to shave their legs, underarms and now, genitals, though thankfully that trend seems to be retreating. As for how often you should shave your face, that comes from standards of professional dress that were created before women even entered the workforce in significant numbers. They might be enforced or supported by women, but men as a population aren't expected to make themselves beautiful or sexually appealing in order to secure or maintain employment because they're primarily valued for their labor, but it's appalling how often women still are, particularly in work environments where women are carrying labor for men and the men are routinely given credit for the work.
You really need to read what you post. Do you just write stream of consciousness and post it raw?
Besides the numerous times you have contradicted yourself in this post, your point was that women are told how they should look. Later you pretty much stated it was in reference to social situations. What I'm saying is men have standards to which they are held as well.
Numerous time you have stated your rage at being told my men how to look. Then you said "Women in their lives might have encouraged them to try it, but those guys, like most guys, aren't going to something like that if it's not more for them than someone else." Same with women.
Women choose to go to such extremes of neoteny. Do you were shave your legs? Why? It is not required by law. If you show up to work without it you won't be sent home. If you continue to do so and someone complains you can run to your boss or HR and cry sexual harassment. If I show up to work without having dragged a razor over my throat, I get sent home. If I continue I get fired. And there is no recourse for me. No law protects my rights. I have no right to complain. It's in the employee handbook.
The very standards in society you are fighting against you disregard when it comes to men, But when it comes to women then, how dare they.
And did you just reduced men down to being only useful for physical labor? Then in the very next breath say men are altogether useless because women do everything?
Of course I'm just writing. It's the internet, not a dissertation. How do you think I've posted this many replies in 48 hours? And how did you think I should be responding? I did not contradict myself in the response you're referencing. If you don't understand nuance and context and take the time to read the thread, I'm not going to hold your hand or feed into your reactivity. I'm also not going to apologize for knowing what I know. I don't owe you anything.
Do you know what those words mean. Nuanse? You are the only person swearing on this post. Context. Read my posts. Consistent context. As, in I hold to the same meaning not webel wable to fit my inane ramblings into the topic at hand.
Seriously Guys..
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Or what and how often to wax or chests, how often and how to shave our faces, How to cut our hair and how much mouse to put in.
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Men chose to take on those things. I was there when it happened. Most of the straight guys I knew couldn't wait to shave their pubes. Women in their lives might have encouraged them to try it, but those guys, like most guys, aren't going to do something like that if it's not more for them than someone else. It's quite the opposite for women. There's a lot of cultural pressure for women to shave their legs, underarms and now, genitals, though thankfully that trend seems to be retreating. As for how often you should shave your face, that comes from standards of professional dress that were created before women even entered the workforce in significant numbers. They might be enforced or supported by women, but men as a population aren't expected to make themselves beautiful or sexually appealing in order to secure or maintain employment because they're primarily valued for their labor, but it's appalling how often women still are, particularly in work environments where women are carrying labor for men and the men are routinely given credit for the work.
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You really need to read what you post. Do you just write stream of consciousness and post it raw?
Besides the numerous times you have contradicted yourself in this post, your point was that women are told how they should look. Later you pretty much stated it was in reference to social situations. What I'm saying is men have standards to which they are held as well.
Numerous time you have stated your rage at being told my men how to look. Then you said "Women in their lives might have encouraged them to try it, but those guys, like most guys, aren't going to something like that if it's not more for them than someone else." Same with women.
Women choose to go to such extremes of neoteny. Do you were shave your legs? Why? It is not required by law. If you show up to work without it you won't be sent home. If you continue to do so and someone complains you can run to your boss or HR and cry sexual harassment. If I show up to work without having dragged a razor over my throat, I get sent home. If I continue I get fired. And there is no recourse for me. No law protects my rights. I have no right to complain. It's in the employee handbook.
The very standards in society you are fighting against you disregard when it comes to men, But when it comes to women then, how dare they.
And did you just reduced men down to being only useful for physical labor? Then in the very next breath say men are altogether useless because women do everything?
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Of course I'm just writing. It's the internet, not a dissertation. How do you think I've posted this many replies in 48 hours? And how did you think I should be responding? I did not contradict myself in the response you're referencing. If you don't understand nuance and context and take the time to read the thread, I'm not going to hold your hand or feed into your reactivity. I'm also not going to apologize for knowing what I know. I don't owe you anything.
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Do you know what those words mean. Nuanse? You are the only person swearing on this post. Context. Read my posts. Consistent context. As, in I hold to the same meaning not webel wable to fit my inane ramblings into the topic at hand.
And men do not owe you anything.