My whole point is when I'm at the grocery in sweat pants at 8:30 pm after a long day, or on my way home to shower after the gym, I'm not thinking about getting laid and if some man I don't know feels the need to get in my face or yell at me from across the street to tell me that I should be thinking about that, but I don't feel safe calling him on it because that man could follow me and hurt me, so I have to ignore him and keep going, I'm going to be pissed off because I know that there's a good chance every other woman he does this to is going to be in the same position and he's never going to learn that it's wrong to behave that way and all the men who see him get away with it are going to think it's okay, too. That, dudes, is pretty much what it's like to be a woman in the US and I didn't even get into how scary it is when the same type of man DOES find you attractive and feels it's his duty to not only tell you about it incessantly until you can get away from him, but tell you about all the disgusting things he wants to do to you. It's not a fucking compliment.
If this was so prevailant in the US for women to experience constantly then why is it seen so rarely? It just so happens that this happens every so second of every minute to every woman yet somehow you can go a full life time and only hear it happen once or twice?
You are describing the cultural transference of misery. Living with a miserable gender eventually affects the other gender. Australia and especially America are countries with high gender misery.
Okay, I'm going to have to look this up. I've never heard this term, but Australia and the United States are both misogynistic as fuck and misogyny hurts men, too. It creates profound insecurity because you can never be masculine enough to counteract the feminine aspect that you can't erase. It's part of being a microcosm. You can't really live in a harmonious way without it.
I am a woman, and I have never been yelled at or told that I look bad by anyone. I have been complemented on how I look, but I have never had a man tell me what he wants to do with me. I think you might be hanging out in bad neighborhoods. Every guy I have ever met has been a complete gentleman towards me.
That may very well be true, but what does it have to do with OP's experience, except that to relate it in the way you have reads like an attempt to invalidate her views. Sisterhood does exist but you are not involved in it.
I was in a fucking corporate supermarket. I was walking down a main street. And it wasn't dark. Invalidating other women's experiences is not going to help you in the long run. Say if you got raped and I said, "Oh you must've been in a bad neighborhood." It's a lot like saying you were asking for it and I expect that from men, but it says a lot about how men think about women. Just because you haven't experienced something personally, doesn't mean there isn't a woman somewhere experiencing it right now. Next time you encounter something like this, try to locate your empathy and if you can't, please just stay out of the conversation.
"Try to locate your empathy".
- In the same comment villifies men by saying men have bad views of women.
Others might pussy-foot around this but I'm not going to.
I do not believe that you have gone through everything you have said you have. Sorry/not sorry but I just don't. Seems like you can't go a day without some sort of bad sexist behaviour and you act like you know this happens to most women every day by most men when the sinple reality is that it doesn't, the people not ideologically driven to believing this dribble knows it's not true, and if you're so easily going to lie about the every day dynamics between men and women in such a vile manner then why should I blindly believe all these bad things that apparently happened to you when you're willing to make it seem like an epidemic when it's not?
He basically admitted that " Even the examples I've used here that didn't personally happen to me happened to women." Not outright because that would invalidate everything he said.
I wasn't invalidating your experience. I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was just trying to say that not all men are bad. Many men are extremely kind and friendly. Some guys act like jerks. Ignore the jerks.
Yes. Equate the average women not being able to vote due to not being able to be drafted into war like the average men to black people and their children being hung from trees in the past.
Accurate. Wisdom. Tell me more about how evelz teh menz iz and how bad the wamens haz eet even when most gender specific distrabution of tax payers money (most of which is brought in by men) is spent on women's issues.
It's funny how women can be the most oppressed by government while government gives more of a fuck towards women's issues.
Thanks for clarifying. I know lots and lots of wonderful men. I date men, believe it or not, but the problem with ignoring the jerks and not having a wider discussion about things like this is that all the world goes on thinking these things just happen and women just have to put up with it because women aren't as important as men and that's not true.
Maybe when some guy does that to you, in broad daylight as you say, you should correct him? Or find his boss and bring it up to that person? Your all "fight the fucking misogyny" except when you have to do something.
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I only wish it would work for me. Never does.
My whole point is when I'm at the grocery in sweat pants at 8:30 pm after a long day, or on my way home to shower after the gym, I'm not thinking about getting laid and if some man I don't know feels the need to get in my face or yell at me from across the street to tell me that I should be thinking about that, but I don't feel safe calling him on it because that man could follow me and hurt me, so I have to ignore him and keep going, I'm going to be pissed off because I know that there's a good chance every other woman he does this to is going to be in the same position and he's never going to learn that it's wrong to behave that way and all the men who see him get away with it are going to think it's okay, too. That, dudes, is pretty much what it's like to be a woman in the US and I didn't even get into how scary it is when the same type of man DOES find you attractive and feels it's his duty to not only tell you about it incessantly until you can get away from him, but tell you about all the disgusting things he wants to do to you. It's not a fucking compliment.
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If this was so prevailant in the US for women to experience constantly then why is it seen so rarely? It just so happens that this happens every so second of every minute to every woman yet somehow you can go a full life time and only hear it happen once or twice?
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Okay, I'm going to have to look this up. I've never heard this term, but Australia and the United States are both misogynistic as fuck and misogyny hurts men, too. It creates profound insecurity because you can never be masculine enough to counteract the feminine aspect that you can't erase. It's part of being a microcosm. You can't really live in a harmonious way without it.
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So you are now saying it happens to men to. Making your entire rant sexist. I.e. it's ok to make men insecure but not if it happens to women.
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Sort of a moot point. What happens is that nobody gets laid.
I am a woman, and I have never been yelled at or told that I look bad by anyone. I have been complemented on how I look, but I have never had a man tell me what he wants to do with me. I think you might be hanging out in bad neighborhoods. Every guy I have ever met has been a complete gentleman towards me.
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Lol your welcome ❤️
That may very well be true, but what does it have to do with OP's experience, except that to relate it in the way you have reads like an attempt to invalidate her views. Sisterhood does exist but you are not involved in it.
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Another attack by woman on woman. Way to express that sisterhood by excluding her for saying her personal opinion.
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Your words "Sisterhood does exist but you are not involved in it."
That would be an appropriate response if the OP was not casually implying that this happens to the vast majority of women or an epidemic.
I was trying to say that not all men are bad. I did not intend for it to come of the way it did.
I was in a fucking corporate supermarket. I was walking down a main street. And it wasn't dark. Invalidating other women's experiences is not going to help you in the long run. Say if you got raped and I said, "Oh you must've been in a bad neighborhood." It's a lot like saying you were asking for it and I expect that from men, but it says a lot about how men think about women. Just because you haven't experienced something personally, doesn't mean there isn't a woman somewhere experiencing it right now. Next time you encounter something like this, try to locate your empathy and if you can't, please just stay out of the conversation.
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So what your saying now is "your a women who doesn't agree with me. Then don't say anything." Now who wants to control what women think?
"Try to locate your empathy".
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He basically admitted that " Even the examples I've used here that didn't personally happen to me happened to women." Not outright because that would invalidate everything he said.
I wasn't invalidating your experience. I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was just trying to say that not all men are bad. Many men are extremely kind and friendly. Some guys act like jerks. Ignore the jerks.
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Ignoring them changes nothing, don't you realise that? Do you believe blacks should've ignored systemic racism? Hmm?
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Yes. Equate the average women not being able to vote due to not being able to be drafted into war like the average men to black people and their children being hung from trees in the past.
Accurate. Wisdom. Tell me more about how evelz teh menz iz and how bad the wamens haz eet even when most gender specific distrabution of tax payers money (most of which is brought in by men) is spent on women's issues.
It's funny how women can be the most oppressed by government while government gives more of a fuck towards women's issues.
Could iit be that you're wrong? Ofcourse not.
Thanks for clarifying. I know lots and lots of wonderful men. I date men, believe it or not, but the problem with ignoring the jerks and not having a wider discussion about things like this is that all the world goes on thinking these things just happen and women just have to put up with it because women aren't as important as men and that's not true.
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Maybe when some guy does that to you, in broad daylight as you say, you should correct him? Or find his boss and bring it up to that person? Your all "fight the fucking misogyny" except when you have to do something.
Do you think maybe if you say the same things back to them as they say to you it would maybe help them realize how rude they are being.