If a certain standard imposed on people is harmful, then yes, they should be at least be informed of the dangers they are exposed to.
"Wait, did you just say what people "should" feel, then follow it by telling me I cant say how people "should" feel? As if you are the should police."
Don't play that game with me. Using false equivalents to deturn the conversation and poiting the hypocritical finger at me won't work.
You are the one who's trying to impose a certain standard. I'm just countering it.
Even if it's a passive way of subversion, it's still meant to impose an idea by force, nonetheless.
"I never said what people should or should not feel, only that I didn't blame them for having feelings."
Reverse psychology 101...
"Clearly your emotions are effecting your rational thought."
You are projecting.
"You don't think people are unconscious?"
As long as we've established that someone is unconscious, they should be automatically absolved of any rationalized guilt. If they feel guilt or remorse, that would mean they are conscious.
Like I said before, you can't be held accountable for something you didn't do, and if you did it, and are unaware of it, that would mean you have mental disorders, and that's an individual issue, not a demographic issue, like you're insinuating.
You're one of those people who entertain the idea that suggests white privilege exists and it's institutionalized. Why don't you just spout it out? Stop beating around the bush and say what you really wanna say.
How? It isn't a real question. You arent seeking knowledge. You are not trying to understand a different perspective. I'm not sure what you want, but it doesn't seem to be truth.
Are you telling me that you believe everyone is treated the same by everyone, everywhere, and skin color and economic class play no role in the attitudes of the people you encounter?
Where did you get your education? Were you offered one? Did you have the opportunity to go?
I don't really know where you are coming from. Personal experience has a lot to do with being able to see privilege, so depending on your experiences with opportunity, you may not be able to see it.
Well how am I supposed to understand your perspective when you're avoiding to answer my question?
Pretty much everything you say has a rhetorical undertone.
"Personal experience has a lot to do with being able to see privilege, so depending on your experiences with opportunity, you may not be able to see it."
What I get from this is that you don't really expect people to recognize their own privilege, but to pressure them into thinking they owe other people something.
I personally believe that privilege is earned, and even if it's not, it's still unwarranted to correlate that privilege to other people's underprivilege and shortcomings.
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If a certain standard imposed on people is harmful, then yes, they should be at least be informed of the dangers they are exposed to.
"Wait, did you just say what people "should" feel, then follow it by telling me I cant say how people "should" feel? As if you are the should police."
Don't play that game with me. Using false equivalents to deturn the conversation and poiting the hypocritical finger at me won't work.
You are the one who's trying to impose a certain standard. I'm just countering it.
Even if it's a passive way of subversion, it's still meant to impose an idea by force, nonetheless.
"I never said what people should or should not feel, only that I didn't blame them for having feelings."
Reverse psychology 101...
"Clearly your emotions are effecting your rational thought."
You are projecting.
"You don't think people are unconscious?"
As long as we've established that someone is unconscious, they should be automatically absolved of any rationalized guilt. If they feel guilt or remorse, that would mean they are conscious.
Like I said before, you can't be held accountable for something you didn't do, and if you did it, and are unaware of it, that would mean you have mental disorders, and that's an individual issue, not a demographic issue, like you're insinuating.
You're one of those people who entertain the idea that suggests white privilege exists and it's institutionalized. Why don't you just spout it out? Stop beating around the bush and say what you really wanna say.
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Bravo! Spoken like a true unconscious mind.
I am not the one imposing anything on anyone. People are free to feel however they want.
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Ok. Let's simplify things a little bit.
Just answer this question:
Do you think white privilege is real?
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Well, how do you define white privilege? Because if our definitions do not match, it's just a wasted conversation.
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I don't define it in any way since I don't believe it exists.
Answer my question please.
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How? It isn't a real question. You arent seeking knowledge. You are not trying to understand a different perspective. I'm not sure what you want, but it doesn't seem to be truth.
Are you telling me that you believe everyone is treated the same by everyone, everywhere, and skin color and economic class play no role in the attitudes of the people you encounter?
Where did you get your education? Were you offered one? Did you have the opportunity to go?
I don't really know where you are coming from. Personal experience has a lot to do with being able to see privilege, so depending on your experiences with opportunity, you may not be able to see it.
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Well how am I supposed to understand your perspective when you're avoiding to answer my question?
Pretty much everything you say has a rhetorical undertone.
"Personal experience has a lot to do with being able to see privilege, so depending on your experiences with opportunity, you may not be able to see it."
What I get from this is that you don't really expect people to recognize their own privilege, but to pressure them into thinking they owe other people something.
I personally believe that privilege is earned, and even if it's not, it's still unwarranted to correlate that privilege to other people's underprivilege and shortcomings.