Reverse consent iin? Did I do wrong to fuck her?

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  • Well the fact that this is on your conscience and that you wouldn't do it again means that you're an alright guy. You sound like a decent guy to me, everyone makes mistakes. It's not like you're not one of those assholes who'd be laughing about it. So try not to beat yourself up about it.

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    • I could see myself doing it again though. I hope this never happens to me because I don't think I'd have the willpower to promise to never fuck a hot girl that I knee already liked me.

      I'm not an "alright guy" by just people's standards and its something I have to live with. I'd rather deal with that than have to hide all the controversial aspects about me to seem more like an acceptable person.

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      • Ok, well honestly then it is your actions that matter. It doesn't matter how guilty you feel about it, if you'd do it again then you're just as bad as someone who wouldn't give a fuck about doing it again tbh. I mean, what'd be the difference to everyone else? The result is the same. So yeah, I hate to get all antagonistic but there's no excuse if you'd do it again, you'd just be an asshole.

        I don't know what controversial aspects you're talking about but I don't think they're something you have to live with. You can try to change and improve yourself. People change all the time, it's not always a bad thing. It doesn't always mean that you're not being true to yourself or whatever. Otherwise you could use that argument for serial killers and rapists, that they'd be changing who they are as a person if they stopped doing what they do. We are who we choose to be.

        Besides you don't have to change your opinions or the way you think, just what you do. As long as you don't do anything wrong then you're fine. You can think all kinds of fucked up stuff as long as you didn't act upon them. Again, what'd be the difference to everyone else? It's our actions that define us.

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        • Well right now I wanna say that of course I'd never do it again but I know myself better than that. I would think a lot differently in the moment.

          Well in terms of contaveraial aspects, it's all the stuff people give me shit for. So for one, having a lot of casual sex, for two, taking steirods, and for three, a lot of views on social issues, and for four, views on religion. This pretty much sums up the reasons why people who think I'm bad, think I'm bad.

          Views on something are separate than malicious behaviors. Nothing I do or think is a direct harm to anybody else.

          I just don't like pretending to agree with people to avoid a squabble.

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          • Ok, you just gotta try to be strong in those moments though. Maybe try to think of the person you'd like to claim to be, or try to think of what your parents would think of you if you went through with it.

            A lot of that stuff you mentioned isn't really bad though. Something is only immoral if it harms someone else. So there's nothing wrong with having casual sex, as long as you don't pretend that you're interested in a relationship just to get sex. There's also nothing wrong with taking steroids, as long as you're not using them to cheat in a competition (although they are really bad for you and I do advise you to stop).

            And yeah like you said, there's nothing bad about having different views than other people, as long as you don't verbally attack people for their views. I have a lot of opinionated views on social issues and religion too, and think that most people are wrong with their views, but I always try to be polite when debating them about it (except if they have a ridiculous or dangerous belief like anti-vaxxers or something). You're right, you shouldn't have to hide your views around people.

            So I wouldn't say you're a bad person for any of that stuff. I'm not saying I'd agree with your opinions and I'm not saying I'd even like you after hearing them, but I can't say from what I've heard that you're a bad person.

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            • Think of my parents??? Chief that is very poor word choice. My parents are complete bafoons.

              But see I'm with you. It's only immoral if it harms other people. But a lot of people don't agree with us.

              And define verbally attack? I think I do verbally attack morons. If you say to my face there is 18 quadrillion genders I'm calling you an absolute bafoon. If that's a verbal attack then I do verbal attack. Not often, but I absolutely do.

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              • Ok sorry, I didn't know using your parents as inspiration would be a bad idea.

                Well I guess calling someone a buffoon isn't that bad really, I've called people things like that too. I'm talking about shouting and acting really aggressive. But you don't need to call them a buffoon anyway in situations like that. If it's so obvious that they're a buffoon then you can instead explain why their argument is stupid, there's no need to get impatient. Calling someone a buffoon won't change their mind.

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