Just search on YouTube. There are lots of videos there debunking the concept. Here are a few (although not by scientists, but pretty bright guys nonetheless).
Yeah, I don't really see the need to research something I don't necessarily believe in like the idea that we don't have freewill as I'm one to believe that we do in fact have God given freewill.
I will, however, say that a person with a gun to their head, and or one who has a serious psychiatric, or neurological disorder certainly has less freewill than say a perfectly healthy person who has no psychiatric, or neurological disorders, and does not have someone pointing a gun at their head.
I don't think this stuff is as absolute one way, or another as some people might claim.
I'm not seeking to be either open minded, or close minded. I'm just seeking to exist, and to be. The thing is that except for the exceptions I mentioned in my last comment my belief in freewill serves me just fine in my life.
I do think that if you're seeking to convince people who believe strongly in the concept of freewill that freewill doesn't exist, or isn't a thing you probably won't have much luck attempting to assign people the homework of researching something they don't believe, or especially care about. This kinda reminds me of those occasional posts where an OP will say that he, or she doesn't believe in such, and such a thing, and then the OP will say, "prove me wrong". Most people don't care to go to that trouble, because they're busy with things they have to do, and other things in which they're actually interested. I think most people won't be especially interested in researching things they aren't interested in or don't especially care about if they're present belief system works well for them in their life journey.
When someone wants to convince others to switch to a new, or different way of thinking the burden of proof is on the person wanting to do the convincing if the people he, or she wishes to convince are happy, and content with their present belief system. It's not so much a matter of narrow mindedness, but rather a lack of time, interest and or inclination.
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I'm not familiar with that assertion. In what way do they say we don't have freewill?
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Just search on YouTube. There are lots of videos there debunking the concept. Here are a few (although not by scientists, but pretty bright guys nonetheless).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwaXqep-bpk&t=14s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j4Oyi1T-HmU&t=5s
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Yeah, I don't really see the need to research something I don't necessarily believe in like the idea that we don't have freewill as I'm one to believe that we do in fact have God given freewill.
I will, however, say that a person with a gun to their head, and or one who has a serious psychiatric, or neurological disorder certainly has less freewill than say a perfectly healthy person who has no psychiatric, or neurological disorders, and does not have someone pointing a gun at their head.
I don't think this stuff is as absolute one way, or another as some people might claim.
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Fine. No-one's forcing you to do any research. I will say, however, that the outright refusal to do so isn't exactly open minded.
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I'm not seeking to be either open minded, or close minded. I'm just seeking to exist, and to be. The thing is that except for the exceptions I mentioned in my last comment my belief in freewill serves me just fine in my life.
I do think that if you're seeking to convince people who believe strongly in the concept of freewill that freewill doesn't exist, or isn't a thing you probably won't have much luck attempting to assign people the homework of researching something they don't believe, or especially care about. This kinda reminds me of those occasional posts where an OP will say that he, or she doesn't believe in such, and such a thing, and then the OP will say, "prove me wrong". Most people don't care to go to that trouble, because they're busy with things they have to do, and other things in which they're actually interested. I think most people won't be especially interested in researching things they aren't interested in or don't especially care about if they're present belief system works well for them in their life journey.
When someone wants to convince others to switch to a new, or different way of thinking the burden of proof is on the person wanting to do the convincing if the people he, or she wishes to convince are happy, and content with their present belief system. It's not so much a matter of narrow mindedness, but rather a lack of time, interest and or inclination.