Yes, Wiccan teachings are indeed well intended. Treating science as a religion, even thou it is not is also good. But, there is always danger believing things for which there will never be evidence.
Your implication is that, in time, when no evidence presents itself, I will observe that people who have beliefs lacking evidence are indeed happy and healthy. Well, guess what. What I have observed is that people shift to use cognitive biases to support their beliefs in the long term. They fail to look for contraindications to their unprovable beliefs. Rather than accepting the unprovability, they fall into a cognitive dissonance sort of mindset. This is not grossly maladaptive, but it colors the aspirations for knowledge and acceptance of uncertainty in ways that are detrimental to scientific thought.
Agnosticism is reality. It can be proven that certain hypotheses in science, philosophy, and mathematics are in fact unprovable. There is no need to demand absolute certainty about metaphysical issues.
Wow, You write like the people I work for. Do you just sneeze on the keyboard and press the buttons covered with snot?
1. "Your implication is that in time, when no evidence presents itself, I will observe that people who have beliefs with no evidence are indeed happy and healthy." I won't imply it, I will state it. Yes. Are there unhappy people? Yes. The same with your views.
2. "What I have observed is that people shift to use cognitive biases to support their beliefs in the long term." Yes, like everyone with an opinion.
3. "They fail to look for contraindications to their unprovable beliefs." Not every religion has a stated set of beliefs. Also your whole post is about how religion causes suffering. But now you are dragging proof into it? Agnosticism can not by it's nature be proven. And before you say something like "But you can prove God exists." you can't prove it doesn't. And lack of proof is not proof. Also the word is contradictions. contraindications is a medical term.
4. "This is not grossly maladaptive, but it colors the aspirations for knowledge and acceptance of uncertainty in ways that are detrimental to scientific thought." I listed this because in your paragraph you say, " It can be proven the certain hypotheses in science, philosophy, and mathematics are in fact unprovable." and you are against things that are unproven. So since you seem to be confused, could you tell me, what are you against here? Religion or science, philosophy, and mathematics?
Also don't try changing you post because I've copied it.
3. Yes you are correct. Agnosticism cannot be proven. Agnostics accept this.
4. I am I favor of things that are unproven. Occasionally, the unprovability of a hypotheses can be proven. The conjecture of Agnosticism has thus far not been proved.
In time, I think you will come to appreciate Steven Hawking's famous quote, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."
Religion celebrates the misery of life.
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Yes, Wiccan teachings are indeed well intended. Treating science as a religion, even thou it is not is also good. But, there is always danger believing things for which there will never be evidence.
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Your right. Like the belief that only your opinion is the correct one. There is danger in that.
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Danger in the short run. When the evidence comes in, the reality check straightens you out.
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You right, in time you will realize your mistake.
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Your implication is that, in time, when no evidence presents itself, I will observe that people who have beliefs lacking evidence are indeed happy and healthy. Well, guess what. What I have observed is that people shift to use cognitive biases to support their beliefs in the long term. They fail to look for contraindications to their unprovable beliefs. Rather than accepting the unprovability, they fall into a cognitive dissonance sort of mindset. This is not grossly maladaptive, but it colors the aspirations for knowledge and acceptance of uncertainty in ways that are detrimental to scientific thought.
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Wow, You write like the people I work for. Do you just sneeze on the keyboard and press the buttons covered with snot?
1. "Your implication is that in time, when no evidence presents itself, I will observe that people who have beliefs with no evidence are indeed happy and healthy." I won't imply it, I will state it. Yes. Are there unhappy people? Yes. The same with your views.
2. "What I have observed is that people shift to use cognitive biases to support their beliefs in the long term." Yes, like everyone with an opinion.
3. "They fail to look for contraindications to their unprovable beliefs." Not every religion has a stated set of beliefs. Also your whole post is about how religion causes suffering. But now you are dragging proof into it? Agnosticism can not by it's nature be proven. And before you say something like "But you can prove God exists." you can't prove it doesn't. And lack of proof is not proof. Also the word is contradictions. contraindications is a medical term.
4. "This is not grossly maladaptive, but it colors the aspirations for knowledge and acceptance of uncertainty in ways that are detrimental to scientific thought." I listed this because in your paragraph you say, " It can be proven the certain hypotheses in science, philosophy, and mathematics are in fact unprovable." and you are against things that are unproven. So since you seem to be confused, could you tell me, what are you against here? Religion or science, philosophy, and mathematics?
Also don't try changing you post because I've copied it.
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3. Yes you are correct. Agnosticism cannot be proven. Agnostics accept this.
4. I am I favor of things that are unproven. Occasionally, the unprovability of a hypotheses can be proven. The conjecture of Agnosticism has thus far not been proved.
In time, I think you will come to appreciate Steven Hawking's famous quote, "The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge."