I greatly disagree with your definition of a hipster.. If you search the term online, it is one who DOES follow latest trends and fashions.
But then if you look on UrbanDict, it is defined partly as,
"a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter."
Of which I completely agree with. I am defined by my friends as a hipster and never have I been a conformist to todays society but nor have I tried to not follow it. I am who I am and don't avoid, or try to be something because I want to fit a certain term.
I don't see hipsters as intelligent people anymore than I can see the 1950's greasers as criminals. You're not stupid, but in the end the real geeks and nerds are the ones everybody's working for. The greasers weren't criminals and most bragged about their deeds. The pattern with subcultures: all of them talk.
As far as dabbling into pop culture hipsters tend to stick on the surface. They tend to appreciate music, but they normally listen to one genre and judge strongly when they have little background in music. As far as art goes hipsters normally don't know the difference between and additive and subtractive scale but are equally judgmental, the arts hipsters like also has a tendency of looking the same and completely unoriginal. But hey, I guess once one puts on non prescription glasses to seem more intelligent (like an illusion) they can't see far outside the hipster bubble. Hipster intelligence can basically be summed up as "I can read and I'm proud." Your knowledge of current events comes from the Daily Show.
The point that I'm trying to make is that hipsters are ALL TALK. And what was that other thing... they're nerd posers. You're NORMAL people pretending to be geeks. They're average people with an elitist attitude.
You can't get so definitive with a subculture definition. That is incredibly biased for one and also just completely blown out of proportion. That's like saying all black men carry guns. All hipsters are NOT all talk. I think it really depends on where you come from. They don't just listen to one type of music, I for one listen to just about every type of music. I don't judge people at all. I am very open minded and love new conversations and ideas. Also, Hipsters don't try to be geeks. I define them more as spiritual and more in touch with everything around them.
I really do hate using labels but when someone comes along trying to down one type of person because of their belief's on them, well shame on you.
Same as accusing black men carry guns? Hipsters are a subculture, not a race. And one thing a subculture is defined by is that they're a group of like minded people. I wasn't calling hipsters all talk I was calling subcultures in general all talk. That includes hipsters but don't think I single you out. Maybe it does depend on where I'm from because that is certainly my experience with hipsters. (I'm from North East Urbantopia) Hipsters don't try to be geek yet they take style tips from the worlds most famous geek in media, Steve Urkel?
Shame on me because now Hipsterism is a religion of spiritual people and my rants are a hate crime.
Well see I'm from the US and they're not trying to act like the sort you describe. And not religious, just spiritual. So it's not a hate crime. Haha.
I really just define a hipster as a modern day hippy from the 60s and 70s. That's where the name comes from if I'm not mistaken.
Basically there's resentment towards hipsters because of the pretension. By that I mean, the desire to be seen to like certain things, to wear certain things, over the genuine like of those things. A love of taking grainy sepia polaroids of friends so they can upload them to Facebook and show them how much fun they're having in a field wearing Raybans and high-waisted shorts, not because they're actually enjoying themselves, but because they want to look like they are, and look like arty Parisian philosopher-geeks at the same time. It's the superficiality and pretentiousness that irritates people.
My opinion of the word hipster is that it's always pejorative / derogatory, and always refers to that type of pretentious person. If you're not like that, then in my opinion you're not a hipster.
Regarding geeks and hipsters- Are you a geek?
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I greatly disagree with your definition of a hipster.. If you search the term online, it is one who DOES follow latest trends and fashions.
But then if you look on UrbanDict, it is defined partly as,
"a subculture of men and women typically in their 20's and 30's that value independent thinking, counter-culture, progressive politics, an appreciation of art and indie-rock, creativity, intelligence, and witty banter."
Of which I completely agree with. I am defined by my friends as a hipster and never have I been a conformist to todays society but nor have I tried to not follow it. I am who I am and don't avoid, or try to be something because I want to fit a certain term.
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I don't see hipsters as intelligent people anymore than I can see the 1950's greasers as criminals. You're not stupid, but in the end the real geeks and nerds are the ones everybody's working for. The greasers weren't criminals and most bragged about their deeds. The pattern with subcultures: all of them talk.
As far as dabbling into pop culture hipsters tend to stick on the surface. They tend to appreciate music, but they normally listen to one genre and judge strongly when they have little background in music. As far as art goes hipsters normally don't know the difference between and additive and subtractive scale but are equally judgmental, the arts hipsters like also has a tendency of looking the same and completely unoriginal. But hey, I guess once one puts on non prescription glasses to seem more intelligent (like an illusion) they can't see far outside the hipster bubble. Hipster intelligence can basically be summed up as "I can read and I'm proud." Your knowledge of current events comes from the Daily Show.
The point that I'm trying to make is that hipsters are ALL TALK. And what was that other thing... they're nerd posers. You're NORMAL people pretending to be geeks. They're average people with an elitist attitude.
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You can't get so definitive with a subculture definition. That is incredibly biased for one and also just completely blown out of proportion. That's like saying all black men carry guns. All hipsters are NOT all talk. I think it really depends on where you come from. They don't just listen to one type of music, I for one listen to just about every type of music. I don't judge people at all. I am very open minded and love new conversations and ideas. Also, Hipsters don't try to be geeks. I define them more as spiritual and more in touch with everything around them.
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Same as accusing black men carry guns? Hipsters are a subculture, not a race. And one thing a subculture is defined by is that they're a group of like minded people. I wasn't calling hipsters all talk I was calling subcultures in general all talk. That includes hipsters but don't think I single you out. Maybe it does depend on where I'm from because that is certainly my experience with hipsters. (I'm from North East Urbantopia) Hipsters don't try to be geek yet they take style tips from the worlds most famous geek in media, Steve Urkel?
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Well see I'm from the US and they're not trying to act like the sort you describe. And not religious, just spiritual. So it's not a hate crime. Haha.
I really just define a hipster as a modern day hippy from the 60s and 70s. That's where the name comes from if I'm not mistaken.
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Basically there's resentment towards hipsters because of the pretension. By that I mean, the desire to be seen to like certain things, to wear certain things, over the genuine like of those things. A love of taking grainy sepia polaroids of friends so they can upload them to Facebook and show them how much fun they're having in a field wearing Raybans and high-waisted shorts, not because they're actually enjoying themselves, but because they want to look like they are, and look like arty Parisian philosopher-geeks at the same time. It's the superficiality and pretentiousness that irritates people.
My opinion of the word hipster is that it's always pejorative / derogatory, and always refers to that type of pretentious person. If you're not like that, then in my opinion you're not a hipster.
Grr! First I didn't like them based on someone else's definition. Now they sound like people I really do like (and resemble).
I guess this is the problem with labels and we should all take everyone at face value.
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Understanding Hipsters
http://cdn-www.cracked.com/articleimages/ob/hip2.jpg
That's the idea!