The best argument I heard is how can you look at the universe and not see a creator
But for my beliefs, I think it's much more likely that there's like a core energy to the totality of physicality, and the big bang basically spread the energy around as a by product of the explosion, like how a bomb will leave a residue of gun powder and stuff
I also think there are built in fail safes, like how black holes absorb all matter, thus returning all matter back to the original source as energy, kinda like how in pool the game is over once all the balls are potted
This outlook doesn't really have any presuppositions, it's based on a lot of verified scientific research, but the person who posited what I said the best argument is for theism basically looked at that like it's retarded, even though I granted him the benefit of the doubt in believing in a purposeful creation
One of his other points is like life is so complex it just has to be by design, my response to that was well of course life had to develop complexly, biology *is* complex
And the funny thing is we're both saying very similar things, you know like that mass collection of energy (which btw there's recent research into basically all particles and waves having a foundation of energy) that could be like a god, like the aggregate of all the energy in the universe that could very well be conscious like we are but most likely on a more advanced level, that would rather basically dissipate itself repeatedly as big bangs than spend ad infinitum by itself, which could definitely be the same god he's talking about just using different words, but I think the spiritual connotations made him toxically sceptical, but that's okay because I now see him as an opportunistic hypocrite so his opinions don't really mean that much to me anyway, it just sucks in his mind and those he has influence over will see me in a similar light because it's like, I started out with the golden rule and he's just whatever about different view points. Like it's great you think Jesus is more like an ideal than a non fictional man portrayed to the letter in the bible, but how about you act like you really believe that before you try to dismiss what I'm saying. Like part of me just thinks he wants to be the only cognitively advanced person around and I guess I just made him realize his shortcomings
But my biggest problem with that outlook is just that it's very similar to assigning human emotions to an animal, except they're assigning them to something incomprehensible to humans, so same thing just going the other way, which therein lies the dogma of religion and believing in a straight up god that created existence solely for us or mutual benefits or whatever
Really my beliefs are more about developing as a person, being a positive source of energy. Which is almost what religion tries to accomplish, but without trying to tell people there's a god and heaven and how we have all this information based solely on the words of a few, so it's like, my beliefs are very similar to other religions, but again without the dogma.
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The best argument I heard is how can you look at the universe and not see a creator
But for my beliefs, I think it's much more likely that there's like a core energy to the totality of physicality, and the big bang basically spread the energy around as a by product of the explosion, like how a bomb will leave a residue of gun powder and stuff
I also think there are built in fail safes, like how black holes absorb all matter, thus returning all matter back to the original source as energy, kinda like how in pool the game is over once all the balls are potted
This outlook doesn't really have any presuppositions, it's based on a lot of verified scientific research, but the person who posited what I said the best argument is for theism basically looked at that like it's retarded, even though I granted him the benefit of the doubt in believing in a purposeful creation
One of his other points is like life is so complex it just has to be by design, my response to that was well of course life had to develop complexly, biology *is* complex
And the funny thing is we're both saying very similar things, you know like that mass collection of energy (which btw there's recent research into basically all particles and waves having a foundation of energy) that could be like a god, like the aggregate of all the energy in the universe that could very well be conscious like we are but most likely on a more advanced level, that would rather basically dissipate itself repeatedly as big bangs than spend ad infinitum by itself, which could definitely be the same god he's talking about just using different words, but I think the spiritual connotations made him toxically sceptical, but that's okay because I now see him as an opportunistic hypocrite so his opinions don't really mean that much to me anyway, it just sucks in his mind and those he has influence over will see me in a similar light because it's like, I started out with the golden rule and he's just whatever about different view points. Like it's great you think Jesus is more like an ideal than a non fictional man portrayed to the letter in the bible, but how about you act like you really believe that before you try to dismiss what I'm saying. Like part of me just thinks he wants to be the only cognitively advanced person around and I guess I just made him realize his shortcomings
But my biggest problem with that outlook is just that it's very similar to assigning human emotions to an animal, except they're assigning them to something incomprehensible to humans, so same thing just going the other way, which therein lies the dogma of religion and believing in a straight up god that created existence solely for us or mutual benefits or whatever
Really my beliefs are more about developing as a person, being a positive source of energy. Which is almost what religion tries to accomplish, but without trying to tell people there's a god and heaven and how we have all this information based solely on the words of a few, so it's like, my beliefs are very similar to other religions, but again without the dogma.