Or maybe, just maybe, it's proof that there are intelligent people who can understand this procedure from a non-emotionally reactive stand point.
Child molestation has nothing to do with abortion, stop comparing apples to oranges.
You could use the argument on a three year old if you want to sound like an idiot. A three year old is an independently functioning organism; a fetus is not, which is the entire fucking point and why there's an age of viability. You don't get to turn women into living incubators because a completely legal and medically acceptable procedure hurts you feelings.
So, what do you guys actually do for these women other than berate them and try to shame them because you're on a religious/moral pedestal above everyone else?
"Child molestation has nothing to do with abortion, stop comparing apples to oranges."
If you were willing to objectively evaluate my argument you would see that it is, in fact, a perfectly valid comparison.
"A three year old is an independently functioning organism; a fetus is not, which is the entire fucking point and why there's an age of viability."
So. What. Killing kids is killing kids. I'm sorry but I simply don't know how to make this any clearer for you.
"So, what do you guys actually do for these women other than berate them and try to shame them because you're on a religious/moral pedestal above everyone else?"
If being vocally opposed to killing innocent people suggests that I speak from a "moral pedestal" then so be it.
I am looking at it objectively. You're comparing a child that has been born to a fetus that is developing in the body of an independent organism and calling them the same. They're not the same legally, they're not the same developmentally, the only thing they have is common is that they're the same species.
Interesting that you responded to all of my points but the last one, so I ask again: So, what do you guys actually do for these women other than berate them and try to shame them because you're on a religious/moral pedestal above everyone else?
Maybe someone should give you a clearly worded lecture on how contraceptives and condoms aren't 100% effective and can fail for a variety of reasons.
What's even more ironic is that the Republicans who claim to be so staunchly pro-life are continually battling to restrict women's access to birth control, thereby increasing the rates of unwanted pregnancy and the need for abortion, consequently. Viagra is covered under most health insurance plans and birth control isn't. That's part of your problem. That, combined with these states that teach abstinence only bullshit who have astronomical rates of teen pregnancy due to elaborate misinformation.
Pro-choicers are silly?
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Or maybe, just maybe, it's proof that there are intelligent people who can understand this procedure from a non-emotionally reactive stand point.
Child molestation has nothing to do with abortion, stop comparing apples to oranges.
You could use the argument on a three year old if you want to sound like an idiot. A three year old is an independently functioning organism; a fetus is not, which is the entire fucking point and why there's an age of viability. You don't get to turn women into living incubators because a completely legal and medically acceptable procedure hurts you feelings.
So, what do you guys actually do for these women other than berate them and try to shame them because you're on a religious/moral pedestal above everyone else?
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"Child molestation has nothing to do with abortion, stop comparing apples to oranges."
If you were willing to objectively evaluate my argument you would see that it is, in fact, a perfectly valid comparison.
"A three year old is an independently functioning organism; a fetus is not, which is the entire fucking point and why there's an age of viability."
So. What. Killing kids is killing kids. I'm sorry but I simply don't know how to make this any clearer for you.
"So, what do you guys actually do for these women other than berate them and try to shame them because you're on a religious/moral pedestal above everyone else?"
If being vocally opposed to killing innocent people suggests that I speak from a "moral pedestal" then so be it.
I am very much agnostic, by the way.
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I am looking at it objectively. You're comparing a child that has been born to a fetus that is developing in the body of an independent organism and calling them the same. They're not the same legally, they're not the same developmentally, the only thing they have is common is that they're the same species.
Interesting that you responded to all of my points but the last one, so I ask again: So, what do you guys actually do for these women other than berate them and try to shame them because you're on a religious/moral pedestal above everyone else?
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Just what do expect us to do for them? Give them condoms along with a slow and clearly-worded lecture on how to use the damned things?
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Maybe someone should give you a clearly worded lecture on how contraceptives and condoms aren't 100% effective and can fail for a variety of reasons.
What's even more ironic is that the Republicans who claim to be so staunchly pro-life are continually battling to restrict women's access to birth control, thereby increasing the rates of unwanted pregnancy and the need for abortion, consequently. Viagra is covered under most health insurance plans and birth control isn't. That's part of your problem. That, combined with these states that teach abstinence only bullshit who have astronomical rates of teen pregnancy due to elaborate misinformation.