Oh using capital letters is SO scary. BLEH.
It's people with your thinking that have irresponsible behaviour as well. It's not a kid now so we can kill it...yes it is killing. Just as a plant grows and you destroy it, just as an embryo is in a seed. The whole point is to not encourage promiscuous behaviour and teenage pregnancy by inculcating the thought that people can get away Scot free by abortion and hold no responsibility for their actions.
Funny you mention plants. I do a lot of gardening and to do it right, you have to cut off flowers and kill seedlings all the time. Sometines they even deprive each other of nutrients. Shoukd we discourage promiscuous behavior in plants? Prohibit bees from getting too active?
I also do gardening and haven't killed any of my seedlings unless they are destroyed by some external forces. Anyway I'm not interested in arguing with your extension of your plant analogy. You too with the presumptions. No I'm not an extremist in thinking like you nor did I say humans should behave like animals. I merely drew an analogy by which you are digressing hopelessly, and of course you know that lol
PS: I forgot to reply to your conclusion jumping in relation to my personal sexual behaviour.
I'm 68 and have been sexually active since the age of 13, at which period in history contraception was virtually non-existent.
I've had two false alarm pregnancy scares in my life when I considered abortion, once when I was 15 and the adult male concerned assured me he wouldn't get me pregnant and much later when I thought I was pregnant to the husband I was about to leave.
I plead guilty to being "irresponsible" as a teenager, that's what teenagers are like, but I regard it as far more irresponsible these days for contraception to not be freely available to anyone who's sexually active or planning to be.
The alternative, as I keep saying, is compulsory motherhood!
Oh but it wasn't compulsory sex either. The child deserves to live regardless of what people of your opinion say or do. You have done abortions, you should be feeling sorry for it not encouraging it. No one is forcing you to take care of the child either.
I have never "done abortions" or had an abortion, but I have campaigned for women's right to control our own bodies and will continue to do so. What "it" should I be feeling sorry?
Some pregnancies do result from compulsory sex - ie rape - or from failed contraception.
I repeat, the alternative is COMPULSORY MOTHERHOOD
No one told u to decide either whether the child should be born or not. That is it's right! There are lots of people who have unwanted pregnancies who later appreciate their children. Basically it's wrong for the mother or father to decide whether the child should live or not.
It's not a child and a woman is definitely a human being with the right to decide whether or not to continue an unwanted pregnancy. It's wrong to force women to carry and give birth to children they don't want: wrong for the woman, wrong for the resulting child and wrong for society
So the only alternative you can think of for accidental pregnancy is compulsory motherhood, which of course doesn't affect the male involved one iota? Presumably you're therefore in favour of contraception being widely and freely available?
By the way, pregnancy can obviously result from a single act, not necessarily promiscuity, whatever you mean by that, presumably the female's behaviour?
Do you ever give any thought to the subsequent effects on children of being born to a parent or parents who didn't want them?
I'm not thinking of anything you're presuming lol. It's not an ideal world in which people take responsibility but I am encouraging that responsibility should be taken. You commit the action now take responsibility of the child. Stop making presumptions of what I think. Ok let me tell you, I don't think it's the females fault definitely both partners take the responsibility or should be taking it. I don't think you know how many problems there are in every household across the world where some children have to work to support their own parents, where sometimes the parents cannot feed their children and make them live because there is no food. They watch as their kids diminish before them, helpless. The difficulty of life belongs to everyone. Every person has their test and while circumstances can be favourable for some and not for others, the challenges are everywhere. Its true that there are dysfunctional homes but some of the best people thrive through it and succeed. It's not a persons background that should be blamed for their character. We choose to have the personality we do and when that child grows it will know the possibility for change.
Pro-choicers are silly?
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Oh using capital letters is SO scary. BLEH.
It's people with your thinking that have irresponsible behaviour as well. It's not a kid now so we can kill it...yes it is killing. Just as a plant grows and you destroy it, just as an embryo is in a seed. The whole point is to not encourage promiscuous behaviour and teenage pregnancy by inculcating the thought that people can get away Scot free by abortion and hold no responsibility for their actions.
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Funny you mention plants. I do a lot of gardening and to do it right, you have to cut off flowers and kill seedlings all the time. Sometines they even deprive each other of nutrients. Shoukd we discourage promiscuous behavior in plants? Prohibit bees from getting too active?
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I also do gardening and haven't killed any of my seedlings unless they are destroyed by some external forces. Anyway I'm not interested in arguing with your extension of your plant analogy. You too with the presumptions. No I'm not an extremist in thinking like you nor did I say humans should behave like animals. I merely drew an analogy by which you are digressing hopelessly, and of course you know that lol
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You must be a terrible gardner. But you don't seem to respect life much. Just make it, but not care for it. Lol
PS: I forgot to reply to your conclusion jumping in relation to my personal sexual behaviour.
I'm 68 and have been sexually active since the age of 13, at which period in history contraception was virtually non-existent.
I've had two false alarm pregnancy scares in my life when I considered abortion, once when I was 15 and the adult male concerned assured me he wouldn't get me pregnant and much later when I thought I was pregnant to the husband I was about to leave.
I plead guilty to being "irresponsible" as a teenager, that's what teenagers are like, but I regard it as far more irresponsible these days for contraception to not be freely available to anyone who's sexually active or planning to be.
The alternative, as I keep saying, is compulsory motherhood!
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Oh but it wasn't compulsory sex either. The child deserves to live regardless of what people of your opinion say or do. You have done abortions, you should be feeling sorry for it not encouraging it. No one is forcing you to take care of the child either.
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I have never "done abortions" or had an abortion, but I have campaigned for women's right to control our own bodies and will continue to do so. What "it" should I be feeling sorry?
Some pregnancies do result from compulsory sex - ie rape - or from failed contraception.
I repeat, the alternative is COMPULSORY MOTHERHOOD
No one told u to decide either whether the child should be born or not. That is it's right! There are lots of people who have unwanted pregnancies who later appreciate their children. Basically it's wrong for the mother or father to decide whether the child should live or not.
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It's not a child and a woman is definitely a human being with the right to decide whether or not to continue an unwanted pregnancy. It's wrong to force women to carry and give birth to children they don't want: wrong for the woman, wrong for the resulting child and wrong for society
So the only alternative you can think of for accidental pregnancy is compulsory motherhood, which of course doesn't affect the male involved one iota? Presumably you're therefore in favour of contraception being widely and freely available?
By the way, pregnancy can obviously result from a single act, not necessarily promiscuity, whatever you mean by that, presumably the female's behaviour?
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I'm not thinking of anything you're presuming lol. It's not an ideal world in which people take responsibility but I am encouraging that responsibility should be taken. You commit the action now take responsibility of the child. Stop making presumptions of what I think. Ok let me tell you, I don't think it's the females fault definitely both partners take the responsibility or should be taking it. I don't think you know how many problems there are in every household across the world where some children have to work to support their own parents, where sometimes the parents cannot feed their children and make them live because there is no food. They watch as their kids diminish before them, helpless. The difficulty of life belongs to everyone. Every person has their test and while circumstances can be favourable for some and not for others, the challenges are everywhere. Its true that there are dysfunctional homes but some of the best people thrive through it and succeed. It's not a persons background that should be blamed for their character. We choose to have the personality we do and when that child grows it will know the possibility for change.