Nothing accounts for people already hurt. All you can do is try and prevent it from happening to others.
Changing aggressive behavior is a lot harder than changing the behavior of the victim, especially on the internet. How do you propose that even happens? If simply guilting them worked, regular bullying wouldn't exist.
So you think victims of bullying should just be swept aside?
Yes, it is harder. Most negative behaviours are best treated by educating at a young age. Encouraging empathy and understanding. It's not a perfect method, there will still be those that do end up as bullies, but simply saying the victims have to deal with it and move on is ridiculous. Why punish the victim instead of trying to help the aggressor to make positive choices in the first place?
No one is punishing the victim, I simply said that there isn't anything that can be done for them. What, do you think they should be sent to a psychiatrist over Facebook disputes? The people who were already hurt in the past have no choice but to grow up and deal with it. That was in response to "it doesn't account for the kids who have already been hurt by it".
Encouraging empathy and understanding also doesn't work as well because the internet has a dehumanizing effect. It would be an easier solution to teach kids how to defend themselves on the internet.
It disturbs me that you don't see how this is further empowering bullies and putting down those already harmed. And that you don't think addressing both sides is important.
How exactly to you propose these children just "deal with it"? They are CHILDREN, and telling them to just "grow up" is not a solution. That's compounding the previous actions of the bullies.
You don't understand what I'm saying. I'm talking about kids that have already been bullied, not kids that are being bullied or will be bullied. What do you think can actually be done about kids that were hurt in the past?
And again, I'm not putting down the victims. I'm saying that they should be educated about internet safety first and foremost before we go about telling bullies to be more compassionate. It's not that I don't think addressing both sides is important, I just think one plan is much more likely to work and don't want to waste resources.
I understand that perfectly. Those who were sufficiently psychologically damaged should just "get over it"? I'm well aware not all will fit that criteria, but many will.
You are, infact, misunderstanding my point about education. It begins in early childhood, not by the time they are old enough to be using the internet unsupervised. Ever heard that the education and skills supported in the first seven years are the foundation for promoting positives and decreasing the cost of further programs to control the damage?
Additionally, telling the victims they need to x y z while not addressing the bullies, is telling the victims that the fault lies with them.
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Nothing accounts for people already hurt. All you can do is try and prevent it from happening to others.
Changing aggressive behavior is a lot harder than changing the behavior of the victim, especially on the internet. How do you propose that even happens? If simply guilting them worked, regular bullying wouldn't exist.
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So you think victims of bullying should just be swept aside?
Yes, it is harder. Most negative behaviours are best treated by educating at a young age. Encouraging empathy and understanding. It's not a perfect method, there will still be those that do end up as bullies, but simply saying the victims have to deal with it and move on is ridiculous. Why punish the victim instead of trying to help the aggressor to make positive choices in the first place?
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No one is punishing the victim, I simply said that there isn't anything that can be done for them. What, do you think they should be sent to a psychiatrist over Facebook disputes? The people who were already hurt in the past have no choice but to grow up and deal with it. That was in response to "it doesn't account for the kids who have already been hurt by it".
Encouraging empathy and understanding also doesn't work as well because the internet has a dehumanizing effect. It would be an easier solution to teach kids how to defend themselves on the internet.
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It disturbs me that you don't see how this is further empowering bullies and putting down those already harmed. And that you don't think addressing both sides is important.
How exactly to you propose these children just "deal with it"? They are CHILDREN, and telling them to just "grow up" is not a solution. That's compounding the previous actions of the bullies.
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You don't understand what I'm saying. I'm talking about kids that have already been bullied, not kids that are being bullied or will be bullied. What do you think can actually be done about kids that were hurt in the past?
And again, I'm not putting down the victims. I'm saying that they should be educated about internet safety first and foremost before we go about telling bullies to be more compassionate. It's not that I don't think addressing both sides is important, I just think one plan is much more likely to work and don't want to waste resources.
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I understand that perfectly. Those who were sufficiently psychologically damaged should just "get over it"? I'm well aware not all will fit that criteria, but many will.
You are, infact, misunderstanding my point about education. It begins in early childhood, not by the time they are old enough to be using the internet unsupervised. Ever heard that the education and skills supported in the first seven years are the foundation for promoting positives and decreasing the cost of further programs to control the damage?
Additionally, telling the victims they need to x y z while not addressing the bullies, is telling the victims that the fault lies with them.
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So your advice is to say the victims are faultless? The bullies can be addressed, I just don't have faith in the plan.