I've often wondered how cyber bullying could possibly cause some teens to commit suicide. Are they particularly weak individuals, or could they have had serious mental problems before the bullying? Even if these are children one knows, why would someone allow their life to end because of a bunch of totally unimportant words or pictures? Everybody has had horribly embarrassing moments in their lives, haven't they? Don't we all survive?
Doesn't the saying, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me." hold as true today, as it has for the last several millennia?
Do you maintain that this is the only generation in history that has ever been bullied? No, it's not my lack of knowledge of psychology, it's my incomprehension of how unstable and fragile these children are today? There's a fucking therapist available if some stupid child stubs a toe for christ's sake. Two cars full of fellow students die in a car crash one night, when I was in school and there were no shrinks, available or needed. There must be something more going on if a bit of internet hazing kills kids these days.
What's unfathomable to me is that as a 29 year old Aussie thinks she has a clue.
You're talking to a person who's *job* it is to work with kids. If you want to prove that you have a better idea than her about how young people's minds work, the facts are not on your side.
My developmental psychology was only a semester long and manyyears ago, I'm no expert, and I have not got the skills to work with at risk children...but I have a brain, common sense and the ability to read and use basic comprehension skills. And this silly little thing called compassion :P but fuck that shit, eh? EVERYONE SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BOTTLE THAT SHIT DEEP INSIDE AND NEVER EVER SHOW WEAKNESS.
Cos we all know what good repression does ;)
But thanks for your comment, now I'm done with my sarcastic bitch.
Then she's personally a huge part of the problem. She and her ilk didn't exist several generations back, and look how much more psychologically strong the children were then. Nobody was offing themselves over a bit of bullying before her kind spread their poison.
Yeah, sure. Suicide is totally a thing of this generation.
I wasn't talking about normal every day life shit that we all need to deal with. I'm talking about people who maliciously attack others for their own personal gain.
And there has been plenty of evidence that the "suck it up, be tough, be a man" bullshit is psychologically damaging.
And I'll thank you to not blame me for a group of people whose thinking I do not share and have never shown any indication of sharing. I have never and never will advocate coddling. But I also refuse to ignore the fact that mental illness and psychological welfare are very real and very important.
Every generation whinges about how it was better in their day. The fact still remains that we make progress as well as mistakes, and just because you are callous and unkind, doesn't mean that showing any compassion is a weakpoint. Each generation faces different difficulties, and failure to acknowldge that different times have different needs is, quite frankly, fucking moroni and completely ignorant.
You're beating your head against a wall. This is someone who angrily lashed out and insulted someone for asking why a doctor's scale read different from their home scale.
When I asked him why he would do that, I became the subject of his anger.
Well said. I can't argue with any of it.
However, though there may be no studies to back it up, I do believe that modern society is responsible for much of the fact that mental illness is increasing, especially in the young, and psychological welfare in general, is declining. I'm not even uncertain that it isn't all a part of building a society of easily molded character. I actually first encountered this in NZ, in the mid 70's. A whole society so completely homogenized that college students were unable to comprehend a class in free thinking.
I can see were your coming from GS but you have to remember younger generations get more head fucked these day's. I mean when you were a teen porn was probably Rodox were as when I was a teen I was watching Gag Factor (in case your wondering go to porn hub search Gag Factor 8 scene 2 and fast forward to 11:20, it's Johny Thrusts best scene or worst depending on how you look at it).
Again, I agree completely. Porn to us was nudist mags; Playboy wasn't on the scene yet. Going to Asia was like a kid in a candy store.
So if younger generations get more head fucked these days, then why is that acceptable? We shouldn't need a law about internet bullying; we should build stronger children. There are always going to be a few who can't cope in any generation, but this seems like an epidemic. And I don't see a lot of rational thought going into a cure, just the same tired old Band Aids being applied.
Indeed the saying says that but you and I know that it is not always the truth. When internet became so popular you were already an adult and it was clear for you that internet isn't the real world but the children growing up now are growing up with the internet and it's part of their universe.
People who think cyberbullying is actually serious.
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I've often wondered how cyber bullying could possibly cause some teens to commit suicide. Are they particularly weak individuals, or could they have had serious mental problems before the bullying? Even if these are children one knows, why would someone allow their life to end because of a bunch of totally unimportant words or pictures? Everybody has had horribly embarrassing moments in their lives, haven't they? Don't we all survive?
Doesn't the saying, "Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can never hurt me." hold as true today, as it has for the last several millennia?
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Do you maintain that this is the only generation in history that has ever been bullied? No, it's not my lack of knowledge of psychology, it's my incomprehension of how unstable and fragile these children are today? There's a fucking therapist available if some stupid child stubs a toe for christ's sake. Two cars full of fellow students die in a car crash one night, when I was in school and there were no shrinks, available or needed. There must be something more going on if a bit of internet hazing kills kids these days.
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You're talking to a person who's *job* it is to work with kids. If you want to prove that you have a better idea than her about how young people's minds work, the facts are not on your side.
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My developmental psychology was only a semester long and manyyears ago, I'm no expert, and I have not got the skills to work with at risk children...but I have a brain, common sense and the ability to read and use basic comprehension skills. And this silly little thing called compassion :P but fuck that shit, eh? EVERYONE SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP AND BOTTLE THAT SHIT DEEP INSIDE AND NEVER EVER SHOW WEAKNESS.
Cos we all know what good repression does ;)
But thanks for your comment, now I'm done with my sarcastic bitch.
Then she's personally a huge part of the problem. She and her ilk didn't exist several generations back, and look how much more psychologically strong the children were then. Nobody was offing themselves over a bit of bullying before her kind spread their poison.
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Yeah, sure. Suicide is totally a thing of this generation.
I wasn't talking about normal every day life shit that we all need to deal with. I'm talking about people who maliciously attack others for their own personal gain.
And there has been plenty of evidence that the "suck it up, be tough, be a man" bullshit is psychologically damaging.
And I'll thank you to not blame me for a group of people whose thinking I do not share and have never shown any indication of sharing. I have never and never will advocate coddling. But I also refuse to ignore the fact that mental illness and psychological welfare are very real and very important.
Every generation whinges about how it was better in their day. The fact still remains that we make progress as well as mistakes, and just because you are callous and unkind, doesn't mean that showing any compassion is a weakpoint. Each generation faces different difficulties, and failure to acknowldge that different times have different needs is, quite frankly, fucking moroni and completely ignorant.
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You're beating your head against a wall. This is someone who angrily lashed out and insulted someone for asking why a doctor's scale read different from their home scale.
When I asked him why he would do that, I became the subject of his anger.
His attacks on me were funny.
His attacks on the OP, not so much.
Well said. I can't argue with any of it.
However, though there may be no studies to back it up, I do believe that modern society is responsible for much of the fact that mental illness is increasing, especially in the young, and psychological welfare in general, is declining. I'm not even uncertain that it isn't all a part of building a society of easily molded character. I actually first encountered this in NZ, in the mid 70's. A whole society so completely homogenized that college students were unable to comprehend a class in free thinking.
I can see were your coming from GS but you have to remember younger generations get more head fucked these day's. I mean when you were a teen porn was probably Rodox were as when I was a teen I was watching Gag Factor (in case your wondering go to porn hub search Gag Factor 8 scene 2 and fast forward to 11:20, it's Johny Thrusts best scene or worst depending on how you look at it).
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Again, I agree completely. Porn to us was nudist mags; Playboy wasn't on the scene yet. Going to Asia was like a kid in a candy store.
So if younger generations get more head fucked these days, then why is that acceptable? We shouldn't need a law about internet bullying; we should build stronger children. There are always going to be a few who can't cope in any generation, but this seems like an epidemic. And I don't see a lot of rational thought going into a cure, just the same tired old Band Aids being applied.
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what are Helicopter parents?
stop trying to be a smart-ass.
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your mature because you know how to change baby diapers?
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Yes, that is totally what a childcare degree solely consists of.
Indeed the saying says that but you and I know that it is not always the truth. When internet became so popular you were already an adult and it was clear for you that internet isn't the real world but the children growing up now are growing up with the internet and it's part of their universe.
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Very well said.