People can't help their sexual orientation.

First of all this topic will be difficult to most to grasp so I will gradually warm you guys up:

All intelligent people can agree that homosexual people doesn't chose their sexual orientation, and neither did the straight ones.
If we aren´t even clear on this you can stop reading right there.

Now, to my point: Neither can a paedophile or a zoophilic ...yet the same people who'd say that it's wrong to judge and label a gay guy say that a zoophilic or a peadophile is gross and doesn't deserve to live.

Before you say anything YES a paedophile that harms children deserves to die, brutally and painfully because it's never okay to harm children and children shouldn't be exposed to an adults sexuality.

But, I know this person (female before you all starts to think that it's an old man-creep) who has paedophilia as a sexual orientation. She sticks to watching cartoons and role-play with her boyfriend- Why would she be worse than any of you? Yet most people would deem her to be sick and gross.

Same with me and my zoophilic desires, I would never ever harm an animal and neither do I feel as if I am any worse than those of other sexual orientations.

Before anyone says that I talk down on "gays" I don't, I'm bisexual myself and my attraction to the same gender is as strong with me as my desires to get brutally fucked by a dog.

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  • If I may, The reason Paedophillia is so looked down is because children are not developed enough for sexual activity physically and this will hurt them. Hurting children is not good. Also they are not mentally developed enough to make a good well thought out yay or nay when it comes to the idea due to the fact that their brains are still developing and they don't know much about sex. In addition, they normally trust said person and by trying to have sex with the kid, you brake their trust and they get mentally screwed up from the situation. And this will haunt them for many years to come and will make their trusting people more difficult.

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  • However, I'm sure your a wonderful person and we are all different. And it is most times ok to be different as long as we don't harm others. Our differences make the world a beautiful place. Just don't expect to get much support with this post.

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  • Society does not want to accept or condone desires involving animals and children because it increases the chance of the people who have these desires to act on them. These desires need to be kept at a minimum for society to be safe.
    I feel bad for people with these desires. Having my own strange orientation issues, I know one's initial sexual constitution is completely out of one's control. With that said, I would stay busy and avoid animals.

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    • Having fantasies does NOT increase the probability of taking harmful action for sane people who distinguish the difference between fantasy and reality. This is well documented for child porn watchers. (there is an inverse correlation, that molesters are likely to watch CP, which confuses people).

      For example, watch some violent movie, say Batman. I've seen it, you've seen it. We may have imagined going out and killing a bunch of people. But it doesn't happen because we are sane. We are no threat to anyone. We can be entertained by awful violence, and then smile to our neighbors. An insane person is already predisposed to violence or acts against children. The images may reinforce that predisposition, but it is not the cause.

      Our society has decided that anonymously viewing child porn, with which there is no connection to the victim portrayed is a serious crime. At the same time, viewing graphic images of murder, torture, and genocide is not only permitted, but is in our school textbooks. Sane people are not affected by either, but insane people are.

      There are thousands of people in prison right now for harming no one, by merely privately viewing CP, for which they in no way took part or financially supported the underlying crime, and are no threat to anyone, but there are also thousands of known psychopaths freely roaming the streets who can snap at any time and kill people. Something is not right.

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  • I agree that people cant help what turns them on necessarily but if what turns you on happens to be, say raping donkeys or perping on kids, youd better realize that youre sick and not act on those impulses. There is a big difference between being gay, having a creamed corn fetish and abusing animals/kids.

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  • Ok, this is where I have beef with people saying you can't choose your sexual orientation. Regardless of if that's true, it does not affect the morality of choosing to act on an impulse you have.

    I would say that having an impulse, say being gay or being straight or even being a zoophile isn't moral in an of itself. It can become a moral issue, however, if you choose to act on it.

    Consider a serial killer. They are obviously immoral because of their actions. However, consider someone who wants to be a serial killer but doesn't do anything about it. They're obviously not doing anything immoral (unless you consider not signing yourself up for a psychiatrist's appointment immoral). However, they also probably not choose to have those thoughts.

    In conclusion, what makes an action moral or immoral is not whether or not you have an inclination to perform said action, but rather if that action causes harm to others. That's my opinion anyways.

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  • if you let yourself get fucked by a dog, i do not think it is immoral because the dog obviously wants to do it. if you lay naked in a submissive position and your dog fucks you up the ass it is completely consensual sex. You have a greater risk of harm then the dog does. And people may say its immoral because its unnatural, but if two animals have the chemical desire to screw each other, that is nature. Now if you wanted to fuck a dog in the ass or female dog thats when the morality gets iffy, because there is no way to tell if the dog desires it, and you will most certainly cause a great deal of pain to the animal. THat is rape and cruelty. Life isn't fair and i cant make statements for all things, but if you allow yourself to be submissively fucked in the ass you are most certainly in the moral clear.

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  • Keeping her fantasies in the roles you described seems like a good way to act them out without harming anyone. As long as she knows the difference between fantasy and reality, then have fun. My wife wanted the rape fantasy, where she struggled while I forced myself onto her (all willingly of course, it was harder for me to pretend to be that way than for her). She doesn't really want to be raped, just the intensity of it. I am certainly not going to actually rape anyone.

    The problem with children of course is that they can't consent. There is no universal age at which a person is old enough to consent. Your friend getting it on with a 16 year old in one place may be ok, and in another lead to years in prison.

    Animals are not sentient, so they have no fundamental human rights. If your friend finds a willing dog, then who is to say that is cruel (sort of like finding a willing 16 year old boy). Weird and disgusting, sure, that's valid.

    Doing anything between consenting adults can't be wrong.

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  • The homo man likes packing fudge and for his own to be packed

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  • I agree. One cannot help what their sexual orientation is whether they are aroused by children, dogs, whatever. However, the issue isn't that they are aroused by it, the issue comes when they chose to act on it. I don't think a pedophile should be thrown in prison simply because they may be a pedophile because, like you said, they can't control what they feel, however, when they choose to molest a child and harm someone else out their own selfish desires that's when they need to be punished.

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