On being a freethinker and anti-religious

Yo, freethinkers reject conformity for the sake of conformity, considering the way the world around them works, and thinking for themselves, being sceptical, enjoying critical thinking and reason, and being open to new concepts, my idea is to be rare and quirky and highly unconventional, since being your own thing is a freethinker's way, and I'm anti-religious. The truth is testable, verifiable and logical, and therefore it begs the question if anything isn't due to my sensations or sensible qualities, my reflection or reason, my perceptions or ideas, my experience, for example the look and time stated on a clock, in other words without such qualities it's not true, and these qualities are all verifiable, logical and testable. There's no God if he's not testable, and ghosts aren't verifiable either, unless I have evidence to the contrary, given all this, thinking for yourself isn't unique anymore, therefore I think my own way, with other people's beliefs, changing the words, and my own thinking that these beliefs are true and don't assume they're wrong. I reinvented my brain, I won't explain. Therefore given all this this is normal, and I'm a very strange person due to freethinking, and due to humanism here's the one following thing I learned in the humanities: that we're bound to a contract if we're unbiased, and that moral acts are based on some sort of contract, furthermore I'm endeavouring to learn rhetoric and eloquent speech and writing, which is learned through the humanities, as many freethinkers are humanists. Just be 5% too smart, 95% normal intelligence, and 95% sagely resourceful. I choose to be unconventional, and reject accepted norms, and therefore espcially in moral conduct I'm free to act and think any way I like. As an antitheist I'm against religion, religion provides you with a boss, or totalitarian set of rules, and I don't like being under a divine dictatorship, so think about this, and think about the future of humanity not to be perfectly evil like the Supreme Being. Humanity is under no great fall if we learn freethinking and irreligion, for the good of mankind, and to therefore be as different as possible. Just focus on your own business and not the business of others, never lie, and justify your actions, for it's a right to justify your actions, this is how I'm going to rule the world.

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  • Cut this into paragraphs and I might consider reading it

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    • DIO

      Same

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  • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

    Free thinking and anti-religious? Doesnt that kind of imply you're not a freethinker if you have a conformation bias? Freethinking would sound more like "I don't believe in any religion but I'm open to see any evidence of it."

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    • I-control-your-mind

      Freethinkers are all different, they think in different ways, and reject accepted norms, therefore I would have confirmation bias as long as it's verifiable, testable and logical. And anyone who ends up being religious after years of anti-religiousness is wrong, I intend to die an atheist, an antitheist and a nontheist.

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      • FromTheSouthWeirdMan

        Do some psychedelics and think about these kind of things. It helps you see both sides.

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        • I-control-your-mind

          Maybe I'll be wrong if I was religious again, I'm only going to do one religion: Transcendental Meditation, perhaps I won't be atheist, antitheist or nontheist anymore, but spiritual and not religious is the challenge of wise men, perhaps I'll even do AMORC, or maybe only AMORC and not Transcendental Meditation, and perhaps atheist, antitheist and nontheist. Or perhaps I'll be a Puritan despite people thinking I'm crazy, and to think my mind is going to get any saner, pah! I only changed that because of what people think, well I don't care what you think!

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          • Wellyoudliketoknoweh

            At this point I have to say, you kinda sound like my father
            He has a very unhealthy relationship with esoteric stuff and talks about the bad bad religion a lot
            He also believes in meditation and energy’s n stuff and says he doesn’t care about what others think

            My analysis is, he does. And if I can do one thing it’s analysing ppl.
            If ur at a pretty low point in life or pissed at ppl and then there you suddenly find things that make your point of view much better or that gives you positive words constantly, you therefore choose to get into that. The bad thing is, it’s no therapy, it’s simply a layer on another layer, there’s still so much anger and sadness underneath
            When your mind starts obsessing over things and hating stuff a lot, you’re still far from becoming wise and emotionally mature. When you want to bond with all through meditation, it’s best you first deal with your emotional chaos and arrogance you have built up to protect yourself

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            • I-control-your-mind

              Yeah, the argument to get me to believe, well I'm unsure of whether I'm religious, it's really complicated to stop being religious, I maybe still think you're wrong, if antireligion/freethought is perfect it doesn't need to change, religion's addictive, all these beliefs about false things, not based on fact, made by people, and not existing once you analyse the animals of which they're not seeing it, perhaps you're wrong, perhaps I'm wrong, I think religiousness and spirituality poison the truth, they poison your beliefs, yes, they poison everything, maybe I'm better off without it, morality works far better as an atheist than a theist, no one thinks any of my religious behaviour is good: drinking for an hour, not gambling, no dice, no lust or animal-like sex, who thinks that's good? Furthermore I don't think anyone believes that, I'm in hell of slavery under religious delusion, and since I'm not required to believe what I don't want to believe I think I'll be a freethinker and antireligious. This is what I think: religion is an illusion by humans, if you stop believing, it all goes away, and since religion wants to attack on what I recognise as true, something I tested under experience, I think spirituality is a denial of experience, perception and anything real.

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  • Fugazi,again

    Did you find dad's mushroom stash again?

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    • I-control-your-mind

      No, I didn't.

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  • LornaMae

    Awwn, that's so cute! I can't wait to see you rule the world, Hans. I'll get popcorn to watch you on the telly!

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    • greyhat

      I think he goes by i-control-your-mind or something like that now.

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      • LornaMae

        But he's advocating freethinking!!! Hahaha

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        • I-control-your-mind

          Freethinking to make you think I'm sane.

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          • LornaMae

            But you are! Even though mum says you aren't and the quiz tells me that you are nothing but, I know you are your very own self.

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  • DDJenny

    What? You mean you don’t believe a magical sky wizard sent himself to become a zombie carpenter in order to save us from himself because of an apple curse cast by a talking snake who tricked some woman made from the rib of a man who was made from dirt? And said wizard, who is perfect, got so mad at his “perfection” that he killed every man, woman, child, and creature sans a few in a boat because, after all, he loves us?? And if you don’t believe in him the exact same way, I am compelled to kill you? Is that what you mean?

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    • I-control-your-mind

      Sort of. But there's reason for unbelief. Snakes don't talk, and people are made of flesh not dirt, and a woman is female not male, and wasn't born out of a man's ribs. Just because some founder of a belief said something, it doesn't make it accurate, it's more accurate to be quasi-religious not religious, as the wise often are, mostly spiritual not religious, therefore I decided on AMORC, Gnostic Luciferianism, and GermanenOrden, which is a sect of ariosophy (look it up), I even have a GermanenOrden book by Theodor Fritsch, this would make more sense than a religion telling you to do things or avoid things you don't agree with, with a divine dictatorship, that watches everything you do, even when you're asleep and knows what you're thinking. I hate Christianity, a human sacrifice is the most disgusting endeavour to show love and mercy for God! Any antireligious who becomes religious is wrong and living a lie, and these unbeliefs will continue whether I like it or not.

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  • Sunshinegirl

    Being anti-religion is inconsistent with free thought.

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    • I-control-your-mind

      No it's not, since religion isn't testable it's very consistent with freethought. Overwhelmed by the lack of proof that itself only beats up on itself, if you laugh at me for my atheism that's your problem.

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      • Sunshinegirl

        "religion isn't testable" is a claim subject to argument.

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        • I-control-your-mind

          Yeah, but an untestable God, unprovable, with no evidence, it speaks for itself.

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          • Sunshinegirl

            That is also a claim subject to argumentation. And if you think there is NO evidence you ignorant.
            There is 'evidence" for every claim. The issue is the weight of the evidence.

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            • I-control-your-mind

              Consciousness, not matter, is the ground of all being, if I'm not conscious of God it doesn't exist. There's no evidence for any gods, ever, it's a logical impossibility. If you can't test it, it's not verifiable, and it's not logical it's not true, but I'm not sure of freethought. What I think is that the burden of proof is upon you, it might be a dream, hallucination or mirage, you might be colour-blind, drunk or sleepy, and misperceiving, given this experience you could be mistaken, and hence there's a reason to be sceptical. I don't belive a claim that only people say, it's not true, given that your sensations, ideas, perceptions, reflection and reason, even experience combined makes it another story, it begs the question, and it begs the question whether this crap is right, it's a polite way of saying I'm right and you're wrong. And whether the soul always thinks, or I always think, begs the question. If I'm looking at a clock am I thinking? If I'm looking at a clock it's only my experience, ideas and reflection, given my reason, that tells me what's on that clock, therefore whether you have evidence begs the question, you have none, if it doesn't fit my belief you're full of shit.

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  • Wellyoudliketoknoweh

    I didn’t really read it all, but from the title and first few sentences Id say free thinker and anti something doesn’t really fit together. Yes you can be thinking negatively about something, tho at the same time ur rejecting it completely, ignoring the part of freedom really
    Coming at it with hate won’t do much and on a certain spectrum it isn’t really bad, religion I mean, and that’s coming from an atheist

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    • I-control-your-mind

      You have the power to say what you want! Given that I think freely, I'm free from religion. And atheism doesn't prove any belief to be true against a religious person. Religious people will ignore what you call the facts, and that's a reason to abolish faith, but should one be a nihilist? Nay! I think the more unconventional and different you are the more space there is for freethought. The truth is you shouldn't think for yourself, but think your own way, thinking for yourself isn't your own thinking, just have your own thoughts. And furthermore the truth is based on logic, for the burden of proof is upon you besides logic. And due to the history of the Scots and Irish & English, the prejudice against Irish ways, and because my friend's Irish, I'm avoiding such a mistake from 1307 AD. Therefore you ought to act on honour, and do things to your heart's desire, and keep very busy never being lazy, and not beg for any items in public, as part of a moral contract, a mutual agreement to end any hostilities between morality.

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      • Wellyoudliketoknoweh

        Well yeah ur free to think what u want, I’m just saying that if someone wants to be religious, let em be. Some people know about the not logical stuff, tho still choose to believe because they feel more comfortable with it. As long as nothing goes extreme it’s all good
        Mentioned that because, well, anti religious just means u don’t accept it at all
        Also u seem to base a lot on truth. How do u define truth, others define their truth with their logical arguments, u never stop developing ur thoughts which means in time you’ll come to a different truth. Your own truth simply is not others truth, there is not really a common one in philosophy and psychology

        I don’t really get what the last part has to do with that tho. What would u tell a beggar or depressed person with ur moral rules there man

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        • I-control-your-mind

          With my moral rules I'd still say to a beggar that they need honour lest someone attacks them in the slums, as for a depressed person they also need honour and cut out the act, and as for being very busy and not being lazy they ought to follow that rule, as with the silver rule, another rule I followed when my morality worked, this is essential, if they're going out to a fancy restaurant I would bloody well hope they wear a tie and a suit jacket, and I bloody well hope they're wearing a tie bar clipped to their ties, it covers everything, as for doing things to their heart's desire, under the circumstances I have the luxury of doing what I want, if I told that to a beggar I would add that they need to be very careful or cautious (gingerly). Resting and finding a place of rest, mental calm and composure, being faithful, unchanging, or continuous (constancy), it all counts. My morality applies to everyone and not just the rich or happy people.

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  • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

    STOP CONTROLLING MY MIND!!!

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    • LornaMae

      If he were really controlling your mind you'd have said exactly that in a 4-run-on-paragraph comment. Think about it.

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      • I-control-your-mind

        Yeah, if I wasn't really controlling your mind why would that person tell me to stop doing it? (note: if controlling minds upsets you it will stop right now).

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        • LornaMae

          Well, you know the answer to that one already! If you were controlling the person's mind you wouldn't have had them tell you to stop... right? (Note: yet again something I don't know how to feel about, brother).

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      • McBean

        This is some of Hans' better stuff. He owes it all to lithium.

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        • LornaMae

          I believe it's lithium that owes it all to him! Haha

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        • Wellyoudliketoknoweh

          Haha Damn I’ve been reading a lot about this Hans guy recently, who even is he

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          • McBean

            https://www.isitnormal.com/member/hansberger

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          • I-control-your-mind

            A wonderful person.

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        • I-control-your-mind

          It wasn't the lithium.

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    • I-control-your-mind

      Yes, I'll stop controlling your mind.

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      • donteatstuffoffthesidewalk

        *monotone*

        i am under your power

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