Oh silly me. Of course you had no choice to go into the medical field. Of course you weren't to expect that there would be people who were aged and diseased for various reasons, including smoking. Od course you shouldn't have any level of compassion for ill people, regardless of the reasons behind their illness. Of course you should clearly have no understanding of addiction and how it works.
My mother was a smoker. She raised two children who are disgusted by cigarettes. We both have chosen not to smoke. Many people raised by smokers choose not to smoke.
You've never known anyone who quit smoking? My grandmother, aunt and mother have all quit. I know friends of theirs who have quit.
You cannot control the actions of others. People do many things that are detrimental to their health and I doubt you are exempt from this. You can control your own actions. Maybe you should focus on yourself instead.
Maybe you should find a new job since you're clearly lacking in several skills required for it, and you find my story of a healthy woman dying a painful and undignified death as "hhilarious".
Excuse me, I'm realizing that you're just too uneducated to get my gripes.
If you insist on it, I can give you cited evidence. If you insist, I can blah de dah about my knowledge of the addiction process for tobacco. Oops, its really nicotine they seek. Yes, former smokers exist. They can quit.
This is a gripe. In real life, moron, I treat these people very well. I have ethics. They only see the face of compassion. I still think the overboard addicts ought to hurry up and die off already.
Medical? Expectations? I love it. You should listen in on the running commentary that happens behind the scenes. People have to talk to get it out of their system. We see just how STUPID patients can be. This doesn't mean that we care less. On the contrary!
Parents should quit that habit. If they so-called love their children, they can muster up the strength to do it. Its an addiction. Cigarettes aren't a nutrient. You don't need it. Its not water, its not oxygen. We all know damn well that it leads to chronic illness, forget that it reduces a person's lifespan, or lets them live an ailing pathetic existence. One can get through a few weeks of withdrawal issues to get clean. There is rehab and support.
You should be present when one jackass smoker is getting his Medicare-funded treatments while someone else suffering pneumonia or whatever is one room over. WTF! That Medicare-moocher is going to light up the moment he leaves here. Useless.
Listen dickwad, I'm one of the "old people" who smoke. Yes it IS a disgusting habit and I fully know the consequences of what smoking does to my body.
It's an addiction you know? I have successfully given it up for 3 years and I fully intend to give it up again for good.
I do not feel that I deserve to die for this addiction and what charli.m is saying is that you should have more compassion and this, this makes you say that she is uneducated?
You are different. You want to quit. You're trying. More power to you. I wish you all the luck in the world towards your goal. :-)
I'm talking about those that do nothing. I, honestly think its because they're not paying for treatment out of pocket. Its 'free' to them. Its system abuse, essentially.
Keep the insults coming. You should try listening to a head nurse curse people out. That's a sailor mouth, lol. So, I'm kind of immune to it.
Tip? Get rid of stress. That's usually what triggers people. Stress management is the key. You have to create beneficial alternatives to this old dirty habit. Its a habit. You don't need nicotine.
Yaaawwwnnn, I see this is stressing you out. Yes, habit is only a part of addiction. There's a host of neurobiological effects involved. The brain develops a memory of the addiction to nicotine. Its still possible to quit. One would think that suffering the adverse effects would drive someone to try to stop. Haven't you ever heard of classical conditioning? Its the most basic bit of psychology. Also, operant conditioning involved here. Smokers train themselves into an addiction. Its a huge dopamine release. They can cease, by using behavior modification. They have to undo the lifestyle and environment stimuli that triggers wanting to smoke. They can even use Varenicline to help them quit.
This is great if you want to read it:
NLHEP National Lung Health Education Program
SMOKING CESSATION S T R A T E G I E S
<a href="http://www.nlhep.org/Documents/smokingcessation.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nlhep.org/Documents/smokingcessation...</a>
No shit for the rest of it. Not sure what varenicline is, assuming a drug...is it readily available to the public or no?
I don't need smoking cessation strategies as I have never smoked, thatnks for your clear misunderstanding.
I don't know why you've taken it as "my country is better than yours". It's a simple comparison to different management of an unhealthy "habit" as you insist on calling it.
Interesting how you've only chosen to argue with me, despite others here sharing the same view. You, infact, seem to be the stressed one...desperately trying to show your superior intellect and tell me I'm stupid and wrong...when I raise valid points.
Anyway, I'm done arguing with you. Go live your unpleasant little life.
I have expressed myself far better than you with your fancy so called education (in what, exactly?) and I've refrained from my usual instinct to quickly turn to insults, yet you have called me various unfounded things, purely because you disagree with me.
It's not my fault your country has a shitty health care system. My country has a lot more support for quitting smoking than yours. Look at the culture created by your country, blame the big companies who perpetuate it unchecked.
You are yet to tell me about your perfect healthy lifestyle. Hiding something, are we?
Lets bring perceived nationalism into this discussion. How nice. Honestly, Australia is a beautiful country along its coastlines. I've been to Adelaide three times. US healthcare is pretty pathetic for not being more inclusive and affordable, that is truer than truth. However, the US also has cutting edge treatments that the world comes here to receive. I have seen people from Australia receiving treatment here. So, its funny you mention this.
Funny, nationalism? Off the top of my head, Australia has the third highest obesity rate in the Anglo-speaking world. Its rising fast, more so among the indigenous pop. They could do something to curtail this to deflect citizens chances of getting Type II diabetes. To give you some ammo, the USA is #1 for obesity. In fact, the USA pretty much exported this obesity problem around the world. These chronic smokers I see are usually quite overweight, no surprise. Beyond that? I can't say anything bad about Australia. Nothing at all. Its a great country. There's some insanely great athletes that come from the land down under. Its a kick ass country.
These smokers that have no gumption to quit, all the while receiving endless treatment happens to be futile. Sure, I hope that treatment alleviates some of their idiot suffering. You bet I will make sure they get whatever relief is available. I'm not exactly apt to have people suffer, hence I think they should just drop dead, sadly. They just put their fingers in their ears when they're advised to quit. That's sheer stupidity. Why don't they just throw bricks at their face daily.
My health? Its far better than the average. Knock on wood! Do I count my blessings for that? Yes. Unlike most people in total idiot denial, I don't ignore evidence. No. In school, anatomy and physiology details of heart disease, fatty liver disease, and black lungs were enough to make me never do things that ruin health. Could I still drop dead from a disease? Yes. Nothing's foolproof. But, watching addicts destroy themselves is a bit baffling. I see it as a serious mind dysfunction. Its a shame to see it. There are people suffering helpless diseases they truly can't do anything about. Yet these smokers? Shrug their shoulders and light up again and again. They don't even try to quit. Its a classic case of learned helplessness. Those that want to quit, do it.
You're clearly too dumb. Lets see, clueless, you brought up nationality. The "my country is better than yours". That all stems from a learned identification with a nationality. Did you not ever learn this? Tsk, tsk. I know, it all went over your head.
How can you just wish for people to die like that? It's like you're not considering anyone else's feelings besides your own. I get what you're saying, but it's pretty inconsiderate to just single every smoker out like this. My boyfriend is a marine and fights for this country. He's has a very stressful job. I Don't smoke, but I also don't judge him for smoking. He's a great person, and yes it would be better for his health if he stopped, but I accept him for who he is. I love that guy so much. I'm sure one day he will stop eventually, and I will be proud. But right now, I'll let him make his own choices. Hey, even I smoke when I drink. Let's be real. It's pretty fun occasionally. I'm not trying to argue, btw, so please don't take this personally. I'm not an aggressive person, I'm just sharing my point of view. I believe you should understand everyone's like I undsertand yours.
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Oh silly me. Of course you had no choice to go into the medical field. Of course you weren't to expect that there would be people who were aged and diseased for various reasons, including smoking. Od course you shouldn't have any level of compassion for ill people, regardless of the reasons behind their illness. Of course you should clearly have no understanding of addiction and how it works.
My mother was a smoker. She raised two children who are disgusted by cigarettes. We both have chosen not to smoke. Many people raised by smokers choose not to smoke.
You've never known anyone who quit smoking? My grandmother, aunt and mother have all quit. I know friends of theirs who have quit.
You cannot control the actions of others. People do many things that are detrimental to their health and I doubt you are exempt from this. You can control your own actions. Maybe you should focus on yourself instead.
Maybe you should find a new job since you're clearly lacking in several skills required for it, and you find my story of a healthy woman dying a painful and undignified death as "hhilarious".
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Excuse me, I'm realizing that you're just too uneducated to get my gripes.
If you insist on it, I can give you cited evidence. If you insist, I can blah de dah about my knowledge of the addiction process for tobacco. Oops, its really nicotine they seek. Yes, former smokers exist. They can quit.
This is a gripe. In real life, moron, I treat these people very well. I have ethics. They only see the face of compassion. I still think the overboard addicts ought to hurry up and die off already.
Medical? Expectations? I love it. You should listen in on the running commentary that happens behind the scenes. People have to talk to get it out of their system. We see just how STUPID patients can be. This doesn't mean that we care less. On the contrary!
Parents should quit that habit. If they so-called love their children, they can muster up the strength to do it. Its an addiction. Cigarettes aren't a nutrient. You don't need it. Its not water, its not oxygen. We all know damn well that it leads to chronic illness, forget that it reduces a person's lifespan, or lets them live an ailing pathetic existence. One can get through a few weeks of withdrawal issues to get clean. There is rehab and support.
You should be present when one jackass smoker is getting his Medicare-funded treatments while someone else suffering pneumonia or whatever is one room over. WTF! That Medicare-moocher is going to light up the moment he leaves here. Useless.
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Listen dickwad, I'm one of the "old people" who smoke. Yes it IS a disgusting habit and I fully know the consequences of what smoking does to my body.
It's an addiction you know? I have successfully given it up for 3 years and I fully intend to give it up again for good.
I do not feel that I deserve to die for this addiction and what charli.m is saying is that you should have more compassion and this, this makes you say that she is uneducated?
You sir are a full on nasty cunt!
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You are different. You want to quit. You're trying. More power to you. I wish you all the luck in the world towards your goal. :-)
I'm talking about those that do nothing. I, honestly think its because they're not paying for treatment out of pocket. Its 'free' to them. Its system abuse, essentially.
Keep the insults coming. You should try listening to a head nurse curse people out. That's a sailor mouth, lol. So, I'm kind of immune to it.
Tip? Get rid of stress. That's usually what triggers people. Stress management is the key. You have to create beneficial alternatives to this old dirty habit. Its a habit. You don't need nicotine.
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You're one to talk, telling her off about using insults.
You are stupid if you claim to be a medical person yet don't understand addiction. Habit is only a small part of addiction.
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Yaaawwwnnn, I see this is stressing you out. Yes, habit is only a part of addiction. There's a host of neurobiological effects involved. The brain develops a memory of the addiction to nicotine. Its still possible to quit. One would think that suffering the adverse effects would drive someone to try to stop. Haven't you ever heard of classical conditioning? Its the most basic bit of psychology. Also, operant conditioning involved here. Smokers train themselves into an addiction. Its a huge dopamine release. They can cease, by using behavior modification. They have to undo the lifestyle and environment stimuli that triggers wanting to smoke. They can even use Varenicline to help them quit.
This is great if you want to read it:
NLHEP National Lung Health Education Program
SMOKING CESSATION S T R A T E G I E S
<a href="http://www.nlhep.org/Documents/smokingcessation.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nlhep.org/Documents/smokingcessation...</a>
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How am I stressed?
No shit for the rest of it. Not sure what varenicline is, assuming a drug...is it readily available to the public or no?
I don't need smoking cessation strategies as I have never smoked, thatnks for your clear misunderstanding.
I don't know why you've taken it as "my country is better than yours". It's a simple comparison to different management of an unhealthy "habit" as you insist on calling it.
Interesting how you've only chosen to argue with me, despite others here sharing the same view. You, infact, seem to be the stressed one...desperately trying to show your superior intellect and tell me I'm stupid and wrong...when I raise valid points.
Anyway, I'm done arguing with you. Go live your unpleasant little life.
Yes. Because I have compassion, I am uneducated.
I have expressed myself far better than you with your fancy so called education (in what, exactly?) and I've refrained from my usual instinct to quickly turn to insults, yet you have called me various unfounded things, purely because you disagree with me.
It's not my fault your country has a shitty health care system. My country has a lot more support for quitting smoking than yours. Look at the culture created by your country, blame the big companies who perpetuate it unchecked.
You are yet to tell me about your perfect healthy lifestyle. Hiding something, are we?
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Lets bring perceived nationalism into this discussion. How nice. Honestly, Australia is a beautiful country along its coastlines. I've been to Adelaide three times. US healthcare is pretty pathetic for not being more inclusive and affordable, that is truer than truth. However, the US also has cutting edge treatments that the world comes here to receive. I have seen people from Australia receiving treatment here. So, its funny you mention this.
Funny, nationalism? Off the top of my head, Australia has the third highest obesity rate in the Anglo-speaking world. Its rising fast, more so among the indigenous pop. They could do something to curtail this to deflect citizens chances of getting Type II diabetes. To give you some ammo, the USA is #1 for obesity. In fact, the USA pretty much exported this obesity problem around the world. These chronic smokers I see are usually quite overweight, no surprise. Beyond that? I can't say anything bad about Australia. Nothing at all. Its a great country. There's some insanely great athletes that come from the land down under. Its a kick ass country.
These smokers that have no gumption to quit, all the while receiving endless treatment happens to be futile. Sure, I hope that treatment alleviates some of their idiot suffering. You bet I will make sure they get whatever relief is available. I'm not exactly apt to have people suffer, hence I think they should just drop dead, sadly. They just put their fingers in their ears when they're advised to quit. That's sheer stupidity. Why don't they just throw bricks at their face daily.
My health? Its far better than the average. Knock on wood! Do I count my blessings for that? Yes. Unlike most people in total idiot denial, I don't ignore evidence. No. In school, anatomy and physiology details of heart disease, fatty liver disease, and black lungs were enough to make me never do things that ruin health. Could I still drop dead from a disease? Yes. Nothing's foolproof. But, watching addicts destroy themselves is a bit baffling. I see it as a serious mind dysfunction. Its a shame to see it. There are people suffering helpless diseases they truly can't do anything about. Yet these smokers? Shrug their shoulders and light up again and again. They don't even try to quit. Its a classic case of learned helplessness. Those that want to quit, do it.
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The fuck has nationalism got to do with anything?
"Mind disfunction"...yeah. We all know the mind and shit has no bearing on anything...
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You're clearly too dumb. Lets see, clueless, you brought up nationality. The "my country is better than yours". That all stems from a learned identification with a nationality. Did you not ever learn this? Tsk, tsk. I know, it all went over your head.
How can you just wish for people to die like that? It's like you're not considering anyone else's feelings besides your own. I get what you're saying, but it's pretty inconsiderate to just single every smoker out like this. My boyfriend is a marine and fights for this country. He's has a very stressful job. I Don't smoke, but I also don't judge him for smoking. He's a great person, and yes it would be better for his health if he stopped, but I accept him for who he is. I love that guy so much. I'm sure one day he will stop eventually, and I will be proud. But right now, I'll let him make his own choices. Hey, even I smoke when I drink. Let's be real. It's pretty fun occasionally. I'm not trying to argue, btw, so please don't take this personally. I'm not an aggressive person, I'm just sharing my point of view. I believe you should understand everyone's like I undsertand yours.