You fail to realize that the female is 'forced' into motherhood as well. Yes, women have the choice of abortion, but HELLO it's not an option for many, many women. They don't believe in it or can't bring themselves to do it. So if a woman doesn't believe in abortion, then she's just as stuck as this 'poor helpless man'. Same with adoption, most women (and men) can't/won't do it. That's obvious if you just look at how many newborns are adopted willingly vs how many are kept by the parent(s). You seem to have this idea that all these women are conspiring to have kids...they're not, that's an exception rather than a rule-and can easily be thwarted if you have half a brain and use protection. Most likely it's just carelessness on BOTH parties behalf. Oh well...don't be careless then and you won't have to worry about it. People shouldn't get license to run around doing whatever the fuck they feel like and have NO consequences, and stick the public with the bill. You play, you pay.
I didn't read.
I'm sure you've said this all before in the debates before and I countered the points you made, as I'm sure you made here, before.
Been in this debate with you before, won this debate with you before, not continuing our debate like before.
No, actually you haven't countered those points. And I'd hardly say you 'won' anything, since the laws back me up. Until the law changes into what you are pushing for, you haven't won.
BTW, I don't disagree that it's a slightly unfair situation sometimes. However, men have to decide to either have abortions legal and have no say in the matter, or make abortions illegal. There's no reasonable way to have it both ways.
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As long as she didn't rape him, he had a choice.
You fail to realize that the female is 'forced' into motherhood as well. Yes, women have the choice of abortion, but HELLO it's not an option for many, many women. They don't believe in it or can't bring themselves to do it. So if a woman doesn't believe in abortion, then she's just as stuck as this 'poor helpless man'. Same with adoption, most women (and men) can't/won't do it. That's obvious if you just look at how many newborns are adopted willingly vs how many are kept by the parent(s). You seem to have this idea that all these women are conspiring to have kids...they're not, that's an exception rather than a rule-and can easily be thwarted if you have half a brain and use protection. Most likely it's just carelessness on BOTH parties behalf. Oh well...don't be careless then and you won't have to worry about it. People shouldn't get license to run around doing whatever the fuck they feel like and have NO consequences, and stick the public with the bill. You play, you pay.
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I didn't read.
I'm sure you've said this all before in the debates before and I countered the points you made, as I'm sure you made here, before.
Been in this debate with you before, won this debate with you before, not continuing our debate like before.
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No, actually you haven't countered those points. And I'd hardly say you 'won' anything, since the laws back me up. Until the law changes into what you are pushing for, you haven't won.
BTW, I don't disagree that it's a slightly unfair situation sometimes. However, men have to decide to either have abortions legal and have no say in the matter, or make abortions illegal. There's no reasonable way to have it both ways.