Liberals would opt out

In the UK income taxes are more than double for the middle class than they are in the USA. British people often say you should be ok with paying double the tax so your money will go to healthcare and college for others even if you are not in need of those programs yourself. It is your civic duty so to speak. But I believe if you gave them an option to opt out and not pay for other people's benefits they would do it in a heart beat. I think 90% of them would much prefer to pay the 18% USA tax than the 41% UK tax even if it meant their money would not go to other people's social programs. If the government gave them a choice to pay for the programs or not pay for them most would choose not too.

I say this because I have noticed a trend with many of these people. Ive seen them walk right past homeless people, without giving them a dollar and then and simultaneously complain that the government should help them. There seems to be a disconnect and they dont realize the government will just take their money and give to the homeless. So they can cut out the middle man and donate themselves, but they don't. Often times these people are terrible tippers too. They will say "their employers needs to pay them more" but when its time for them to pay a waiter who is vitually their employee for the meal they dont (even though they are in charge of the wage they do not pay well. But will say the CEOs of other companies are greedy for not paying enough). They would rather pass the responsibility to someone else.

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  • LloydAsher

    Did you know that americans are the number one donor of foreign aid, completely independent from the united states.

    People wanna help other people. When you tax them it gives a false equivalency to donating, when in full reality it doesnt help those in need like actual donations.

    That's why when you lower taxes, people donate more money to others than if you just taxed. Sure private donation organizations can screw their patrons of donations but they cant do it worse than how a goverment distributes their taxes in aid.

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    • 1WeirdGuy

      I give back by tipping well. Im a good tipper. I like the bitches at greatclips to fight to the death for the opportunity to cut my hair

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      • LloydAsher

        I give to my local Boy scout troops. I am an eagle scout so I respect the organization. Nothing like taking young men into the woods to carve sticks and set fires.

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        • 1WeirdGuy

          Thats a good idea I'm gonna get my son into that asap. Those are good skills to know.

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          • LloydAsher

            Be sure you find a troop that doesnt pussy out for sjws.

            My troop was an eagle factory. We mass produced eagles mainly because we focused on it for much of our scouting adventures. But because of it we lost some of the typical scout knowlage like tying complicated knots. Shelter building and fires were taught well.

            As much as a disliked scouting when I was in it. It was by far the most valuable advantage i got when i was younger. When I joined the navy I was two full ranks higher than other recruits. Which pissed my chief off to no end because I was "that guy" and the best recruit of the entire batch was outranked by the fuck up.

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            • 1WeirdGuy

              I just looked it up and seen that they changed the name from boy scouts to scout BSA to accommodate SJWs. Its not some indoctrination camp for kids now is it? Looked like a ranbow flag on the website...

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  • PurpleHoneycomb

    I try to at least give a couple of dollars when I see a homeless person in my area. If there's a group of homeless people, I don't purely due to being unable to give to each of them. A friend of mine is a willing vagabond and travels the country on foot.

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  • Sanara

    For homeless people, I am far more likely to give them something if I am alone than if Im walking with a group. But the whole homeless thing could really be more about not wanting to directly interact. And either way you simply cannot give them all the time, because you gotta care for yourself too (and maybe family or pets). If I am for having taxes to help those who need it (which I am) then I do think I should be paying them just like everyone else too. In many cases, the people who would need help the most could never afford to pay it themself, so it has to come from those who are better off

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    • LloydAsher

      On a side tangent what's your opinion on anti homeless architecture?

      Like handles being placed on benches to prevent sleeping on them. Or concrete spikes under overpasses so its uncomfortable to take shelter under them?

      Only ask because I'm fine with their usage. But I know other people are disgusted by their nature.

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      • Sanara

        I am definitely against that. Homeless people have it more than hard enough to begin with, we should try to make their lives easier, not worse. Besides it can also work as a way of hiding how big the homeless problem really is (therefore make people care less than they would), if it keeps homeless people away from places most people go.

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        • LloydAsher

          I dont think its about hiding the problem. It's more of a problem when said homeless people crowd around businesses and residences, as well as underpasses which cause a hazard for the homeless sleeping inside them because of the car traffic.

          I'm all for more shelters as a compromise but if the homeless dont wanna sleep in the shelter I dont have sympathy for them sleeping anywhere else.

          Not to mention the mental health and drug usage problems that is very apparent among the homeless.

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          • Sanara

            Isn't it more of a lack of access to shelter for all the homeless, than homeless people actually not wanting to sleep there?

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            • LloydAsher

              In california? Theres shelters, but the homeless choose not to use them. Big cities tend to have the shelters required for the homeless, as well as more low income housing.

              It's less of a shelter numbers issue. More of using the shelters we already have is the problem.

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          • 1WeirdGuy

            They like to sleep within walking distance of their dealers house normally. If you go near the projects where the drugs are sold you'll see the homeless everywhere. They could stay at the shelter but it would be too far for them to get dope.

            We are supposed to pretend that these are all poor souls that cant find work but in reality they vast majority are bad drug addicts that wont work. I feel terrible for them but it is what it is. They wont help themselves. They dont even try to hide it. Needles will be littered all around where they sleep. Liberals look the other way to blame society and the government without helping themselves

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            • ThatOneGuyYouNeverWantToMeet

              That is very true in my neighborhood, about 8 out of 10 of the homeless people in my area buy pills from 2 of my family members & they always sleep in the woods or under passes near their houses.

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