no, but he was claiming something being a fact NOW(stately that group X wants to take over, or has intentions of doing so in the future), when it was NOT.
"I am married" would be a better example.
Even if i would eventually be, it's not true now. Just because i may be later does not make it any more true now.
yeah, but those eggs, flour and milk will not become a cake by itself.
If you KNOW you are going to make a cake, thats pretty obvious, but in YOUR scenario, it depends on the actions of others, so ultimately, you are claiming those ingredients WILL become a cake, no, you CLAIM they will be a cake tomorrow, then try to convince someone to bake one. Either it's all a setup, then there never was a lie to begin with, thus no lie that could become a truth. Or you lied and just hoped it would be the outcome you suggested, then it's a lie nontheless.
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no, but he was claiming something being a fact NOW(stately that group X wants to take over, or has intentions of doing so in the future), when it was NOT.
"I am married" would be a better example.
Even if i would eventually be, it's not true now. Just because i may be later does not make it any more true now.
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I think you're missing my point here. What I'm saying is that although it's not true in the present it's going to be.
Saying it's a lie because it's not true in the beginning is like saying, "it's not a cake...coz it wasn't in the beginning".
No matter what is was before, it is a cake now.
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yeah, but those eggs, flour and milk will not become a cake by itself.
If you KNOW you are going to make a cake, thats pretty obvious, but in YOUR scenario, it depends on the actions of others, so ultimately, you are claiming those ingredients WILL become a cake, no, you CLAIM they will be a cake tomorrow, then try to convince someone to bake one. Either it's all a setup, then there never was a lie to begin with, thus no lie that could become a truth. Or you lied and just hoped it would be the outcome you suggested, then it's a lie nontheless.