Lying, as I've always understood the definition, has little to do with "at the present time".
Just because someone is coming towards you with a pair of scissors doesn't mean they're trying to kill although it APPEARS that way just as it appeared the man was lying.
Given a little more time, you'd see that they're just trying to cut your hair just as the man in my example was telling of a future evil to come.
It's the truth, it's just a truth that hasn't come to fruition yet.
But the statement was not true at that time.
No one was going to come and take over.
If you were able to get a truthful answer out of the person, he would have said, well that's a lie since no one is coming, UNLESS I organize it further.
If the man suddenly had a heart attack and died before he got to the other side, then it would be no doubt that he lied, as no one came! Nor were they going to.
A lie cannot be made into a truth in my view.
What this story is in fact is coniving, scheming, and basically a lie at that time. EVEN if it then came true later on.
You may need to explain it more logical detail if you don't feel I've got it.
Presently I say > Lie
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Lying, as I've always understood the definition, has little to do with "at the present time".
Just because someone is coming towards you with a pair of scissors doesn't mean they're trying to kill although it APPEARS that way just as it appeared the man was lying.
Given a little more time, you'd see that they're just trying to cut your hair just as the man in my example was telling of a future evil to come.
It's the truth, it's just a truth that hasn't come to fruition yet.
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But the statement was not true at that time.
No one was going to come and take over.
If you were able to get a truthful answer out of the person, he would have said, well that's a lie since no one is coming, UNLESS I organize it further.
If the man suddenly had a heart attack and died before he got to the other side, then it would be no doubt that he lied, as no one came! Nor were they going to.
A lie cannot be made into a truth in my view.
What this story is in fact is coniving, scheming, and basically a lie at that time. EVEN if it then came true later on.
You may need to explain it more logical detail if you don't feel I've got it.
Presently I say > Lie