no, but he was claiming something being a fact NOW(stately that group X wants to take over, or has intentions of doing so in the future), when it was NOT.
"I am married" would be a better example.
Even if i would eventually be, it's not true now. Just because i may be later does not make it any more true now.
yeah, but those eggs, flour and milk will not become a cake by itself.
If you KNOW you are going to make a cake, thats pretty obvious, but in YOUR scenario, it depends on the actions of others, so ultimately, you are claiming those ingredients WILL become a cake, no, you CLAIM they will be a cake tomorrow, then try to convince someone to bake one. Either it's all a setup, then there never was a lie to begin with, thus no lie that could become a truth. Or you lied and just hoped it would be the outcome you suggested, then it's a lie nontheless.
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No it's a lie, he was talking in the present tense and the event actually happens in the future.
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"I'm going to be 30 someday"
Since it's not true now, by your definition I'm lying yes?
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Fuck me, are you really that retarded you don't understand the concept of past, present and future? No? Well fuck off then you dumb little shit.
no, but he was claiming something being a fact NOW(stately that group X wants to take over, or has intentions of doing so in the future), when it was NOT.
"I am married" would be a better example.
Even if i would eventually be, it's not true now. Just because i may be later does not make it any more true now.
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I think you're missing my point here. What I'm saying is that although it's not true in the present it's going to be.
Saying it's a lie because it's not true in the beginning is like saying, "it's not a cake...coz it wasn't in the beginning".
No matter what is was before, it is a cake now.
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yeah, but those eggs, flour and milk will not become a cake by itself.
If you KNOW you are going to make a cake, thats pretty obvious, but in YOUR scenario, it depends on the actions of others, so ultimately, you are claiming those ingredients WILL become a cake, no, you CLAIM they will be a cake tomorrow, then try to convince someone to bake one. Either it's all a setup, then there never was a lie to begin with, thus no lie that could become a truth. Or you lied and just hoped it would be the outcome you suggested, then it's a lie nontheless.