Which post? If you mean mine, I'm certainly not a liberal, I'm an Anarcha-Feminist/Women's Liberationist and have no time for liberals. They're in power in Australia and are right wing reactionaries to the bone, even though we recently got a prettier and more polite pm
I think he's more or less talking about American liberals; it sounds funny, but here, 'liberal' is a term used to refer to people who are left of center (though not far enough to be socialists/Marxists/anarchists). In fact, in America if you call yourself an 'anarchist,' or a 'libertarian,' there's a very good chance people will still think you're a capitalist, due to right-wing reactionaries having adopted the terms in America.
In America, if you want to see a right-winger experience bewilderment, just tell him that liberals are generally conservative in other countries.
America is more skewed to the right, however; even though Obama is here considered to be somewhat left-of-center, by most other developed countries' standards, he can be considered moderately conservative.
No matter where you go, however, the right is associated with conservativism and traditional values.
Yep, although in Australia the two main political parties - liberal and labor - aren't much different on most issues. We do have Greens, but not enough of them ... yet ....
It is normal I'm sick of internet activists?
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Which post? If you mean mine, I'm certainly not a liberal, I'm an Anarcha-Feminist/Women's Liberationist and have no time for liberals. They're in power in Australia and are right wing reactionaries to the bone, even though we recently got a prettier and more polite pm
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I think he's more or less talking about American liberals; it sounds funny, but here, 'liberal' is a term used to refer to people who are left of center (though not far enough to be socialists/Marxists/anarchists). In fact, in America if you call yourself an 'anarchist,' or a 'libertarian,' there's a very good chance people will still think you're a capitalist, due to right-wing reactionaries having adopted the terms in America.
In America, if you want to see a right-winger experience bewilderment, just tell him that liberals are generally conservative in other countries.
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Do the terms left-wing and right-wing still convey the same meaning in countries other than America? Like the same political affiliation?
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More or less.
America is more skewed to the right, however; even though Obama is here considered to be somewhat left-of-center, by most other developed countries' standards, he can be considered moderately conservative.
No matter where you go, however, the right is associated with conservativism and traditional values.
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Left or center ? lol. Obama is totally left.
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Is he also a homosexual Muslim that is pouring socialism into our water supply?
Yep, although in Australia the two main political parties - liberal and labor - aren't much different on most issues. We do have Greens, but not enough of them ... yet ....
I did realise that, I was deliberately trying to counter USA centrism and I do know the term libertarian has been co-opted by the right wing.
No-one has yet tried to co-opt Anarcha Feminist or Women's Liberation, although the term feminism is fairly meaningless because of misuse