Can I give you a tip: taking a statement that literally makes it difficult for anyone to take you or anything you say seriously. Because obviously most people have the reading comprehension skills and common sense to understand that it does not literally mean every person on the planet. If someone told you that you look like a million bucks, would your respond "I do not believe I look like currency"?
I'm so tired of everyone getting pissed off because someone said the word everyone. It's a short hand way of speaking. It doesn't literally mean EVERYONE. Why is it that whenever someone doesn't like the other person's argument, instead of coming back with something sensible they just decide to take everything literally to dismantle the other person's argument?
Don't patronise me, I don't need your tips. I was pointing out a classic debating error: overstating your case with sweeping statements to the point that it's easily shot down by your opponent: eg ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS. All your opponent has to do is produce evidence of ONE man who's not a rapist and the first person's argument is lost and h/she has to back down to "some" to which the response is "how many? where are your stats?" and first person looks like the idiot s/he is.
Your last question includes a classic figure of speech, not a debating point, and is not analagous to the use of ALL or NONE statements in a debate.
I was also pointing out a classic debating error. Purposefully taking a statement literally that is obviously not a literal statement. When someone says everyone does something, clearly meaning most or a lot and someone responds with something like "so you know what every person in the world does?"...
They think this is a clever response. But it doesn't make them look clever, it makes them look like a foolish person who lacks the common sense to realize it is not a literal statement.
If people don't want to be taken literally they should learn to use the english language correctly and not say all when they mean most. It's lazy and pointless: what's so hard about saying what you mean?
There are very few people who speak literally 100% of the time. I don't believe I have ever met anyone who has never made a non literal statement. People do not need to change the way the language is spoken in practice because of you inability to exercise common sense.
Oh for goodness sake, can't you see the difference between an ordinary conversation and someone trying to make a point in a debate?
I might say it's raining cats & dogs and everyone knows it isn't, but if I say ALL dogs and cats bite and scratch babies, that's obviously supposed to be a statement of fact, not a figure of speech.
End of conversation on my part, bc if you can't get that clear difference after this number of exchanges I'll save my time & energy for something more productive
Obviously you can't understand the difference between a debate and non debate statement, because when Short4words made the comment you responded to, it wasn't really a debate comment. But I think that I have been clear that debate or not, common sense applies.
It is normal I'm sick of internet activists?
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Can I give you a tip: taking a statement that literally makes it difficult for anyone to take you or anything you say seriously. Because obviously most people have the reading comprehension skills and common sense to understand that it does not literally mean every person on the planet. If someone told you that you look like a million bucks, would your respond "I do not believe I look like currency"?
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I'm so tired of everyone getting pissed off because someone said the word everyone. It's a short hand way of speaking. It doesn't literally mean EVERYONE. Why is it that whenever someone doesn't like the other person's argument, instead of coming back with something sensible they just decide to take everything literally to dismantle the other person's argument?
Don't patronise me, I don't need your tips. I was pointing out a classic debating error: overstating your case with sweeping statements to the point that it's easily shot down by your opponent: eg ALL MEN ARE RAPISTS. All your opponent has to do is produce evidence of ONE man who's not a rapist and the first person's argument is lost and h/she has to back down to "some" to which the response is "how many? where are your stats?" and first person looks like the idiot s/he is.
Your last question includes a classic figure of speech, not a debating point, and is not analagous to the use of ALL or NONE statements in a debate.
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I was also pointing out a classic debating error. Purposefully taking a statement literally that is obviously not a literal statement. When someone says everyone does something, clearly meaning most or a lot and someone responds with something like "so you know what every person in the world does?"...
They think this is a clever response. But it doesn't make them look clever, it makes them look like a foolish person who lacks the common sense to realize it is not a literal statement.
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If people don't want to be taken literally they should learn to use the english language correctly and not say all when they mean most. It's lazy and pointless: what's so hard about saying what you mean?
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There are very few people who speak literally 100% of the time. I don't believe I have ever met anyone who has never made a non literal statement. People do not need to change the way the language is spoken in practice because of you inability to exercise common sense.
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Oh for goodness sake, can't you see the difference between an ordinary conversation and someone trying to make a point in a debate?
I might say it's raining cats & dogs and everyone knows it isn't, but if I say ALL dogs and cats bite and scratch babies, that's obviously supposed to be a statement of fact, not a figure of speech.
End of conversation on my part, bc if you can't get that clear difference after this number of exchanges I'll save my time & energy for something more productive
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Obviously you can't understand the difference between a debate and non debate statement, because when Short4words made the comment you responded to, it wasn't really a debate comment. But I think that I have been clear that debate or not, common sense applies.
Your being an asshole ellenna. You lost the argument and now your being a sore loser. Admit defeat and movie on.
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Strange, I don't feel defeated or like a loser. Why don't you "movie on" yourself?
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Fine butt head. You probably fart in your sleep.
*points nose in the air, turns on his heal, and walks away*