It is normal I'm sick of internet activists?

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  • Yes, this post clearly illustrates what liberal thinking actually entails.

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    • Which post? If you mean mine, I'm certainly not a liberal, I'm an Anarcha-Feminist/Women's Liberationist and have no time for liberals. They're in power in Australia and are right wing reactionaries to the bone, even though we recently got a prettier and more polite pm

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      • I think he's more or less talking about American liberals; it sounds funny, but here, 'liberal' is a term used to refer to people who are left of center (though not far enough to be socialists/Marxists/anarchists). In fact, in America if you call yourself an 'anarchist,' or a 'libertarian,' there's a very good chance people will still think you're a capitalist, due to right-wing reactionaries having adopted the terms in America.

        In America, if you want to see a right-winger experience bewilderment, just tell him that liberals are generally conservative in other countries.

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        • Do the terms left-wing and right-wing still convey the same meaning in countries other than America? Like the same political affiliation?

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          • More or less.

            America is more skewed to the right, however; even though Obama is here considered to be somewhat left-of-center, by most other developed countries' standards, he can be considered moderately conservative.

            No matter where you go, however, the right is associated with conservativism and traditional values.

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          • Yep, although in Australia the two main political parties - liberal and labor - aren't much different on most issues. We do have Greens, but not enough of them ... yet ....

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        • I did realise that, I was deliberately trying to counter USA centrism and I do know the term libertarian has been co-opted by the right wing.

          No-one has yet tried to co-opt Anarcha Feminist or Women's Liberation, although the term feminism is fairly meaningless because of misuse

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