Soooo, wait. You're claiming the "fem" feminism means something else? It's just a coincidence that the name sounds like it refers to the same group of people who predominantly subscribe to the ideology and whose interests it serves?
Not a coincidence, but it might as well be for all the importance it has.
Feminism was created many years ago when gender equality was more black and white. Men had more rights than women in pretty much all cases. Calling an gender equality ideology "feminism" would make sense in that time seeing as females had less rights across the board.
Now it's a left over term applied in the same way but to a wider group of people seeing as the scales are less unfairly balanced. As I see it, women still have a worse condition than men but it's more clear that men have an unacceptable condition in some areas too. Feminism serves men's interests in areas where men have an unacceptable condition. It's happening right now in this thread: I am a feminist, and I am defending men's rights right here.
I think you're putting too much importance on the word. It's just a word. Which letters appear in a word don't define the word's meaning.
I knew we're way off topic now but... At best it's kind of ironic though isn't it? Many feminists seem to agree language and word choice are pretty important.
Then maybe it is a little ironic. But it doesn't really detract from my point. A philosophy/ideology/pressure group should gain popularity through the strength of its substance, not through snappy labels with "fortunate implications".
Is the paternity system feminist?
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Soooo, wait. You're claiming the "fem" feminism means something else? It's just a coincidence that the name sounds like it refers to the same group of people who predominantly subscribe to the ideology and whose interests it serves?
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Not a coincidence, but it might as well be for all the importance it has.
Feminism was created many years ago when gender equality was more black and white. Men had more rights than women in pretty much all cases. Calling an gender equality ideology "feminism" would make sense in that time seeing as females had less rights across the board.
Now it's a left over term applied in the same way but to a wider group of people seeing as the scales are less unfairly balanced. As I see it, women still have a worse condition than men but it's more clear that men have an unacceptable condition in some areas too. Feminism serves men's interests in areas where men have an unacceptable condition. It's happening right now in this thread: I am a feminist, and I am defending men's rights right here.
I think you're putting too much importance on the word. It's just a word. Which letters appear in a word don't define the word's meaning.
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I knew we're way off topic now but... At best it's kind of ironic though isn't it? Many feminists seem to agree language and word choice are pretty important.
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Do they? I can't say I've noticed. Are you talking about being PC? I don't see the irony. Sorry :P
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PC doesn't mean anything. I mean in terms of how language influences how you think, "unfortunate implications" and that kind of thing.
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Then maybe it is a little ironic. But it doesn't really detract from my point. A philosophy/ideology/pressure group should gain popularity through the strength of its substance, not through snappy labels with "fortunate implications".