Seriously? How can you fucking justify this eye for an eye bullshit? What if he realizes what he did was fucking wrong, and he just wants to get out of prison and live the life he has the rights to? Fuck this consequentalist bullshit.
Those who are still not convinced, take something you really wish you hadn't done. Maybe you shat your pants in school, you got mad and broke up with your partner or maybe you stole something. According to your logic, you deserve what you had done to other people regardless of your moral perspective on what you had done before.
A lot of times in life the eye for an eye happens automatically . People often get what they deserve. By this i mean, if you break up with your partner you may have someone break up with you as well at some point.
There is karma in this world, i really believe that. Thats why its always good to treat others like you want to be treated.
Well I don't really believe in karma.
Anyway, IMO, you did not respond to my statement correctly. I argued against eye for an eye. In your breaking up example, breaking up with your partner is not immoral, because you would have a just reason for doing so (presumably) and if your future partner breaks up with you as well, she would have a reason for doing so.
Secondly, does the fact that you were evil before justify evil against your present, moral self?
I was not debating you or supporting you. I was merely making an observation, that regardless of whether you think "eye for an eye" is right or wrong, nature often does it anyways. It just happens a lot of the time whether you think it is justified or not. There seems to be some kind of universal "balance" that keeps things in order most of the time. So that people who fuck over other people tend to pay for it in the end somehow, even if its not always clear to us what their "punishment" is. Sometimes they may not even pay for it themselves, maybe their family or their nation pays for their actions. And its not always 100% guaranteed there will be a perfect balance all the time, but things tend to play out as they should most of the time
You make good points and i am not an expert in morality so i dont have the answers, nor do i make the laws, i just follow them
An unseen force that makes things happens meets the definition for magic. You can call it anything you want, that doesn't change what it is. If you behave a certain way out of deference to such an unseen force you either believe in magic or you're an idiot. Wait, that's the same thing.
Karma is neither unseen nor is it a force. It is a principle that attempts to explain how the world works. I encourage you to read the definition or wikipedia page
I encourage you not to believe everything you read on the internet, especially wikipedia.
I'm interested in knowing how you see karma, that must be quite a feat.
With my theology degree I feel like I have a rather firm grasp on what karma is, and that would be: mythology, like all religions. And, I write all of this while wearing my Lord Ganesha pendant. So, while I find belief systems amusing and often contain interesting symbols (A fucking anthropomorphic elephant that removes obstacles, hell yeah), I can't bring myself to believe in magic or deities or any of that other horseshit, ymmv.
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Seriously? How can you fucking justify this eye for an eye bullshit? What if he realizes what he did was fucking wrong, and he just wants to get out of prison and live the life he has the rights to? Fuck this consequentalist bullshit.
Those who are still not convinced, take something you really wish you hadn't done. Maybe you shat your pants in school, you got mad and broke up with your partner or maybe you stole something. According to your logic, you deserve what you had done to other people regardless of your moral perspective on what you had done before.
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A lot of times in life the eye for an eye happens automatically . People often get what they deserve. By this i mean, if you break up with your partner you may have someone break up with you as well at some point.
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Well I don't really believe in karma.
Anyway, IMO, you did not respond to my statement correctly. I argued against eye for an eye. In your breaking up example, breaking up with your partner is not immoral, because you would have a just reason for doing so (presumably) and if your future partner breaks up with you as well, she would have a reason for doing so.
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I was not debating you or supporting you. I was merely making an observation, that regardless of whether you think "eye for an eye" is right or wrong, nature often does it anyways. It just happens a lot of the time whether you think it is justified or not. There seems to be some kind of universal "balance" that keeps things in order most of the time. So that people who fuck over other people tend to pay for it in the end somehow, even if its not always clear to us what their "punishment" is. Sometimes they may not even pay for it themselves, maybe their family or their nation pays for their actions. And its not always 100% guaranteed there will be a perfect balance all the time, but things tend to play out as they should most of the time
You make good points and i am not an expert in morality so i dont have the answers, nor do i make the laws, i just follow them
That would tend to explain why your opinions make so little sense... you believe in magic.
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Not magic. Karma. Big difference.
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An unseen force that makes things happens meets the definition for magic. You can call it anything you want, that doesn't change what it is. If you behave a certain way out of deference to such an unseen force you either believe in magic or you're an idiot. Wait, that's the same thing.
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I encourage you not to believe everything you read on the internet, especially wikipedia.
I'm interested in knowing how you see karma, that must be quite a feat.
With my theology degree I feel like I have a rather firm grasp on what karma is, and that would be: mythology, like all religions. And, I write all of this while wearing my Lord Ganesha pendant. So, while I find belief systems amusing and often contain interesting symbols (A fucking anthropomorphic elephant that removes obstacles, hell yeah), I can't bring myself to believe in magic or deities or any of that other horseshit, ymmv.