What, and the bible doesn't borrow from religious tales before it?
Regardless, this person is still judging an entire group of people based on the fact that their ancestors' writings may or may not have similarities to the bible, and that is still mindless and misinformed.
If this person were to say that they took issue with the content of the Qur'an for borrowing from bible, that'd be fine by me. But you specifically said this person "hates Muslims". So no, they are not "correct" in their hatred.
It doesn't make any more 'right'. You are hating all Muslims just because their ancestors may have taken things from the Bible. It doesn't mean it is acceptable to hate all Muslims, when everyone who may have done that is dead, and these specific people didn't do anything wrong. It would be like hating you because your great great great great great great grandfather was a thief. Sounds like a stupid thing to do? Because it is.
Actually, it's not about MY position. I'm asking what others think about it, provided the views are informed. I'd love to hear comments from people on the subject. Is it possible to justify hate? In order to answer, you'd have to look at the reasoning, and think about your level of respect for other's religion.
So why are you still trying to reject our arguments based on irrelevant things? Regardless of whether the issue is terrorism, holy books, or ancestry, dom180's point and my point still stand intact. None of those things have anything to do with an individual's character, so to "hate Muslims" or to harbor any other generalized hatred is absolutely not "correct".
But these things are NOT irrelevant to the person of faith. So, if you can respect someone's faith, how can you not also respect the factual issues that cause friction? I'm not asking what you personally feel, I'm asking how you can respect a faith yet see a person as being 'wrong' for harboring hatred.
Don't be mad just because you don't have the 'smart' answer...think on it.
1. I'm not mad.
2. "Smart answer"?
3. I've thought on it quite a bit, so please don't patronize.
4. I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. Again, if someone were to take issue with a particular conflict between two groups, that's fine. But you stated that this person "hates Muslims" based on some ancestral/textual dispute, which is by definition a discriminatory stereotype.
I never said I respect all beliefs. I tolerate all beliefs, and respect the right for people to have them. But I don't respect all beliefs.
Is one of these people more 'right' in their hate?
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What, and the bible doesn't borrow from religious tales before it?
Regardless, this person is still judging an entire group of people based on the fact that their ancestors' writings may or may not have similarities to the bible, and that is still mindless and misinformed.
If this person were to say that they took issue with the content of the Qur'an for borrowing from bible, that'd be fine by me. But you specifically said this person "hates Muslims". So no, they are not "correct" in their hatred.
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One of the main issues has to do with ancestry, so it's not as simple as just having similarities.
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It doesn't make any more 'right'. You are hating all Muslims just because their ancestors may have taken things from the Bible. It doesn't mean it is acceptable to hate all Muslims, when everyone who may have done that is dead, and these specific people didn't do anything wrong. It would be like hating you because your great great great great great great grandfather was a thief. Sounds like a stupid thing to do? Because it is.
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First of all, I'm not talking about myself. Second, you don't know what you are talking about regarding the religious aspect.
Well, you seem to have decided on your answer already, so I guess there's not really any point in responding further.
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Actually, it's not about MY position. I'm asking what others think about it, provided the views are informed. I'd love to hear comments from people on the subject. Is it possible to justify hate? In order to answer, you'd have to look at the reasoning, and think about your level of respect for other's religion.
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So why are you still trying to reject our arguments based on irrelevant things? Regardless of whether the issue is terrorism, holy books, or ancestry, dom180's point and my point still stand intact. None of those things have anything to do with an individual's character, so to "hate Muslims" or to harbor any other generalized hatred is absolutely not "correct".
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But these things are NOT irrelevant to the person of faith. So, if you can respect someone's faith, how can you not also respect the factual issues that cause friction? I'm not asking what you personally feel, I'm asking how you can respect a faith yet see a person as being 'wrong' for harboring hatred.
Don't be mad just because you don't have the 'smart' answer...think on it.
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1. I'm not mad.
2. "Smart answer"?
3. I've thought on it quite a bit, so please don't patronize.
4. I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. Again, if someone were to take issue with a particular conflict between two groups, that's fine. But you stated that this person "hates Muslims" based on some ancestral/textual dispute, which is by definition a discriminatory stereotype.
I never said I respect all beliefs. I tolerate all beliefs, and respect the right for people to have them. But I don't respect all beliefs.