Both are stereotyping a whole group of people based on the actions of some members of that group. They are both equally wrong because the reasoning behind the hate is equally meaningless.
You are incorrect in that. The Christian hating Muslims comes from the issues with the Bible and Qu'ran.
I can't explain the entirety of it, but the Qu'ran was written centuries after the Bible and 'takes' from the Bible in a way that isn't acceptable (agreeable) to Christianity.
It has nothing to do with terrorism, 9/11 baloney or anything like that.
So, your last statement is what I wanted to delve deeper into..."They are both equally wrong because the reasoning behind the hate is equally meaningless." Is this really so?
It sounds like you disagree and so believe there is reasoning for this hate and that it has a meaningful basis. I wish you would have explained more because it's not something I know much about and it would be interesting to hear about it from people who know.
I would say that a book written over a thousand years ago is less grounds for hate than something which happened in all our lifetimes. Petty hate over who's book was first is much more foolish.
Of course, all hate between religious people is contrary to the meaning of their religions.
What, and the bible doesn't borrow from religious tales before it?
Regardless, this person is still judging an entire group of people based on the fact that their ancestors' writings may or may not have similarities to the bible, and that is still mindless and misinformed.
If this person were to say that they took issue with the content of the Qur'an for borrowing from bible, that'd be fine by me. But you specifically said this person "hates Muslims". So no, they are not "correct" in their hatred.
It doesn't make any more 'right'. You are hating all Muslims just because their ancestors may have taken things from the Bible. It doesn't mean it is acceptable to hate all Muslims, when everyone who may have done that is dead, and these specific people didn't do anything wrong. It would be like hating you because your great great great great great great grandfather was a thief. Sounds like a stupid thing to do? Because it is.
Actually, it's not about MY position. I'm asking what others think about it, provided the views are informed. I'd love to hear comments from people on the subject. Is it possible to justify hate? In order to answer, you'd have to look at the reasoning, and think about your level of respect for other's religion.
So why are you still trying to reject our arguments based on irrelevant things? Regardless of whether the issue is terrorism, holy books, or ancestry, dom180's point and my point still stand intact. None of those things have anything to do with an individual's character, so to "hate Muslims" or to harbor any other generalized hatred is absolutely not "correct".
Is one of these people more 'right' in their hate?
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Both are stereotyping a whole group of people based on the actions of some members of that group. They are both equally wrong because the reasoning behind the hate is equally meaningless.
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You are incorrect in that. The Christian hating Muslims comes from the issues with the Bible and Qu'ran.
I can't explain the entirety of it, but the Qu'ran was written centuries after the Bible and 'takes' from the Bible in a way that isn't acceptable (agreeable) to Christianity.
It has nothing to do with terrorism, 9/11 baloney or anything like that.
So, your last statement is what I wanted to delve deeper into..."They are both equally wrong because the reasoning behind the hate is equally meaningless." Is this really so?
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It sounds like you disagree and so believe there is reasoning for this hate and that it has a meaningful basis. I wish you would have explained more because it's not something I know much about and it would be interesting to hear about it from people who know.
I would say that a book written over a thousand years ago is less grounds for hate than something which happened in all our lifetimes. Petty hate over who's book was first is much more foolish.
Of course, all hate between religious people is contrary to the meaning of their religions.
What, and the bible doesn't borrow from religious tales before it?
Regardless, this person is still judging an entire group of people based on the fact that their ancestors' writings may or may not have similarities to the bible, and that is still mindless and misinformed.
If this person were to say that they took issue with the content of the Qur'an for borrowing from bible, that'd be fine by me. But you specifically said this person "hates Muslims". So no, they are not "correct" in their hatred.
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One of the main issues has to do with ancestry, so it's not as simple as just having similarities.
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It doesn't make any more 'right'. You are hating all Muslims just because their ancestors may have taken things from the Bible. It doesn't mean it is acceptable to hate all Muslims, when everyone who may have done that is dead, and these specific people didn't do anything wrong. It would be like hating you because your great great great great great great grandfather was a thief. Sounds like a stupid thing to do? Because it is.
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First of all, I'm not talking about myself. Second, you don't know what you are talking about regarding the religious aspect.
Well, you seem to have decided on your answer already, so I guess there's not really any point in responding further.
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Actually, it's not about MY position. I'm asking what others think about it, provided the views are informed. I'd love to hear comments from people on the subject. Is it possible to justify hate? In order to answer, you'd have to look at the reasoning, and think about your level of respect for other's religion.
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So why are you still trying to reject our arguments based on irrelevant things? Regardless of whether the issue is terrorism, holy books, or ancestry, dom180's point and my point still stand intact. None of those things have anything to do with an individual's character, so to "hate Muslims" or to harbor any other generalized hatred is absolutely not "correct".