Is it true that morals and decency are dead?

Anyone else agree that morals, manners, and trying to be decent has now totally become a thing of the past?

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Based on 23 votes (10 yes)
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  • Situational ethics and moral relativism are much more prevalent today than ever before!

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  • idontlikehim

    Honestly, some people do have morals and values and whatnot. But for some people, it's a thing of the past. I know a few people, and adore them as well, who have amazing morals and values, though they still do have their own set of flaws. And then there are the people (person) that have no morals whatsoever, and I loathe.

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  • RecIuded

    Fuck you idiot

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    • Hearing that and other similar things everywhere is definitely becoming a more common and acceptable thing now

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      • insanebotv21

        You don't need morality to be a good person, and you certainly don't need to try. There is also a decent line between being rude and no having no manners

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        • B_E_Z_sweetie

          Morality IS when one tries to be a good person. But some people do say that you don't need religion to have morality.

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          • insanebotv21

            Morality is irrelevant to the quality of one's actions; many do horrible things to satisfy their morality.

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  • wigz

    No, if you're an actually good person you have no problem. If you're a "nice guy" feline like he deserves a woman, different story.

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    • I don't know who gave you a minus 1 for your response, I just gave you a point and brought it back to 0. You're response really makes alot of sense when you think about it. If someone is cold or unfriendly to you, if you're really a nice guy, then you don't question her unfriendliness. If you ask a woman why she's being unfriendly, that would then make you sound like you deserve a woman, right? If you're nice to a woman and then question her for not being friendly back, that would automatically make it look like you think she owes herself to you, right?

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      • wigz

        Yes exactly. You wouldn't react that way if another male just didn't like you, you'd probably accept it and move on. And you probably don't think that being "nice" would be enough to be friends with another guy either, you have to have more to offer than that and you know that. Same goes for women. Women are just people too! Treat them like people, don't pedestalize them and don't reduce them to objects or vending machines that you put "nice" coins in and expect something in return. Have some standards of your own, too. I've seen it too often that a guy will crush on virtually any girl he's around for superficial or imaginary reasons (pedestalizing again), and I've seen the same guys "strike out" with one and just move on down the line to another, it is obvious that you're not liking me for me when you tried to get with several girls in our general circle before me and after me. It's very off-putting. Even if I was interested in you, after seeing you go down a line like that would stop me from getting involved.

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  • e51pegasi

    It would seem so. It would appear that we live in a time that self absorption is the norm.
    The aquisition/ownership of apple electronics, German cars & mcmansions are all that some people are interested in.

    The idea of delayed gratification is now virtually non existant, they are like 6 year old kids in the sweet shop with a fistful of pocket money.

    Words like hello, goodbye & thankyou dont seem to be part of people's lexicon.

    People seem to think that scamming, lying & good old fashioned thieving are morally legitimate ways to earn money. The only time anyone is interested in you is if & how much money they can extract out of you.

    Thankfully not everyone is like that, there are still a few good ones left.

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    • Yeh, it's like thank you, have a nice day, hello, are words that people don't want to say anymore unless they absolutely have to. People's thinking has also gotten more superficial. Decades ago, a casheir would usually show the same gratitude towards everyone because they knew that was the right thing. Today, the cashier will only say thank you or be chatty to who they feel like being that way to, often for superficial reasons. Like a female cashier will show a smile and friendliness to someone they think is cute or hot, but then snub coldly someone that they superficially don't think looks good. They're totally off and on choosy on who to be nice to for superficial reasons. Where way back in the day, the cashier would show a more professional style of gratitude to every customer and usually be the same way with each one no matter what they looked like, etc. In other words, over the past years and decades, people especially women have gotten colder to the less attractive and warmer to the more attractive. To really good looking guys today, a woman will basically go up to them even if they've never met or spoken before, and bluntly tell them they want to jump in bed with them, where decades ago such a thing was unthinkable. But back in the day, a woman would be nicer and more courteous to a guy they did not find attractive because being nice to him anyway was still the right thing to do, they just wouldn't date him or go beyond being nice. Today, a woman is proud to be totally rude to an unattractive guy just for being unattractive. Like I said, they've gotten colder and ruder to the unattractive, and nicer, warmer, and much more assertive and direct to the attractive. It's gotten more extreme on both ends.

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      • wigz

        Whether you are attractive of not, why do you think that people who are paid to be polite to customers/depend on tips like you in that way? It's a big problem for women, too many guys just don't get it that we are being paid to do a job and be nice to you and it doesn't mean anything else except 'this is my job'. Trust me, we'd rather tell most of you to fuck off but we'd get fired or make no money that way. Guys who chat up women at work are generally seen as pieces of shit because we are trapped and have to be nice. It's a scummy thing to do.

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      • Ilikepoopingalways

        Come onnnn guys usually more crueler when it comes to being rude to (unattractive) women, i mean it's definitely not a good thing that cashiers treat their customers like that but you cannot just blame the woman you have to consider the whole situation and the circumstances.

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      • wigz

        https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/12/11/cat-person

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  • B_E_Z_sweetie

    It is not dead.

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  • Goodtoknowyouhaveit

    The creator of this thread is probably dead...

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  • LionsMane

    It's true and very sad. People are in open relationships, one night stands, promiscuity, etc like it's nothing.

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  • Boojum

    Not totally a thing of the past, although I agree with many of the points made by e51pegasi.

    I think that how humans interact depends to some extent on where they live. People in big cities are notoriously rude just about everywhere in the world. On the other hand, we live in rural Wales, and people here are _generally_ much more relaxed and civil.

    I also think that the anonymous nature of communication on the internet and consumer culture can bring out the worst aspects of human nature.

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    • People probably are ruder in the cities than somewhere rural, but now in the internet age, even people way off the beaten path are well aware of the ways of people today. People in small towns and somewhere rural are probably also more wary and nervous of outsiders than they were a long time ago simply because of them knowing how the world has changed so much and that any outsider now could potentially be trouble.

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  • _Mehhhh_

    It's not a new thing tbh, it's been a steady decline over decades.

    I'm amazed at even the most BASIC common courtesies that people forget - as simple as saying "please", "thanks" and "excuse me", holding the door open for people (and saying "thank you" when someone does it for you), and just smiling and looking happy when someone catches your eye. Have some class and respect.

    I work in a high-end department store, and I'm amazed how even there these things slip (and not just with the customers).

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    • Another change today is that if a guy is holding a door for a woman or making any effort to be courteous and friendly, she will often take it as a double meaning. Some women today automatically take any niceness and friendliness from a guy as translation: I want you naked in my bed with me. Decades ago when a guy would show the same kinds of niceness, the women actually took it as him actually just trying to be a decent person.

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      • fakeaccount2

        "if a guy is ... making any effort to be courteous and friendly, she will often take it as a double meaning. Some women today automatically take any niceness and friendliness from a guy as translation: I want you naked in my bed with me."

        The exact same happens the other way around too though.

        if a girl is making any effort to be courteous and friendly, he will often take it as a double meaning. Some men today automatically take any niceness and friendliness from a girl as translation: I want to suck your D.

        Which is probably why a lot of girls feel the way you've explained.

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        • It wasn't like that decades ago, was it? More people took things straight and trusted that the niceness they were getting was sincere, didn't they?

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          • wigz

            No, women still to this day are basically trained to be polite and gracious at your basic acts.

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  • Pumpurrnickel

    Not dead. But it's decreasing.

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