Is it ok to hate ethno nationalists?

Got into a argument with some idiot awhile ago who said that if I hate white nationalists then I hate white people because apparently white nationalist=all white people. I told the moron I don't hate white people in fact I hate anyone who is a ethno nationalist regardless of their racial background. He acted like I was the crazy one and that I am a horrible hateful person which is ironic because he constantly gose on rants about how all non whites are a problem that should be removed from western society. Is it ok to hate ethno nationalists?

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  • youre an idiot for engagin with idiots

    oh shit now im an idiot too

    aaaaaahhhhhhh

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  • "Ethno nationalist" is just another way of saying racist. White racists believe that the lack of melanin in their skin makes them inherently superior to those with darker skin. Black racists such as the Nation of Islam believe that the presence of high levels of melanin in their skin makes them superior to those with lighter skin tones. Asian racists believe that the medium-level of melanin in their skin makes them superior to all those with greater or lesser levels.

    It's sorta like with religion, where every faith is certain that they alone have the single correct understanding of the cosmos, they are convinced that their God or gods truly exist and they fervently believe that, in the entire history of humanity, their little group is unique in being particularly loved by the deity or deities they've invented. Obviously, they can't all be right, so the logical conclusion is that they're all talking a load of shite.

    The reality is that history shows that ethnically "pure" cultures have always been just as fucked up as multi-ethnic cultures. Anyone who believes that light-skinned people are inherently morally superior to others should spend some time studying what life was like in virtually totally-white Europe up to the end of the Medieval period. They should learn something about how the white rulers treated their white subjects and how much those white rulers enjoyed slaughtering each other. They should also check out how those heroes of white racists, the Vikings, made a large part of their profit by carrying out slave raids in Britain, Ireland and the Atlantic coast of the European mainland and selling their white captives as slaves in Scandinavia and North Africa.

    Insecurity and fear are at the root of racism (as well as inter-religion hatred), and it's virtually impossible to argue anyone out of irrational fear. The idiot you talk about is probably heavily-invested in his twisted, negative world-view, and so confirmation bias and all the other tricks our brains play on us which keep us locked into particular patterns of belief will keep him stuck in his delusions.

    As for him accusing you of hating your own race, this strawman argument is a strategy commonly deployed by bigots. They aren't intellectually equipped to see the world in shades of grey, since that requires intellectual effort, and such people find thinking extremely difficult and if not actually painful. What he's said is like nationalists who shout that anyone who ever says anything critical of the country they live in must hate their country. Such people are either intellectually lazy or just plain stupid; they're very comfortable riding on rails - even if they might be taking them to very unpleasant places - and the easiest way for them to deal with those who aren't on the same rails is to use a strawman.

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  • In the modern day, in the West, it's strange not to; for the 99% of human history it's weird not to be an ethno-nationalist.

    If you're actually talking about ethno-nationalist properly, for what it means, then traditionally it's been weird not to be one; most people have been patriotic and want their own ethnicity to hold onto their land.

    Nowadays, in the West, You're defo living at the right time, in the right place, to not like those morals, dude. I don't think it's unusual for strongly patriotic people who put their own ethnicity first to be seen as reprehensible in modern day, Western society at all.

    I know in the UK people even fear flying the English flag for what others would say/ do. Conversely, I can't think of a non-Western country where people aren't ethno-nationalists.

    Also, your friend's an idiot. Hating white-nationalist does not mean hating white people at all. White-nationalism has been generally unusual throughout history; instead it would be Athenian-nationalism, Roman-Nationalism, French-Nationalism, etc, etc.

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    • So I should just accept being an outsider in my own country just because some people want to put race first rather then loyalty? My family has been here for generations and on both sides there have been members who fought and died to protect the country so it's odd that it should be an exclusive club.

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      • I'm guessing you're talking about the USA? If you are then I agree with you; USA has always been a melting pot; ethno-nationalism is not only unpragmatic, but it's largely pretty irrelevant in America, given the history.


        Ethno-nationalism in somewhere like Japan makes sense though, given their success as a people and lack of diversity.

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  • Ethno nationalism is absolutely stupid. Standard nationalism is fine. White nationalist belive in just as many stupid ideas as black nationalists. Is it so hard just to divide ourselves by border? Dividing by race is stupid, dividing by ability is not.

    Remember people divide yourselves by actual ability not by superficial differences in appearances.

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  • I love my country.

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  • I heard a man once say.
    " If you don't like rap.
    You's a racist "
    My question for you is.
    Why are you engaging idiots?
    I don't hate many people.
    The ones you speak of are just misinformed.
    It's not ok to hate them.
    Hate the system that turned them that way.
    Minimum wage workers cheering for a party that just uses them.
    like slave labor.
    Kinda ironic.

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    • I agree with what your saying but I don't have to like people who don't like me. Until they realize that they are being used I don't have to feel anything for them.

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  • Ethno nationalist is a term made up by CNN. The term makes no sense. A nationalist = someone who loves their country. So an ethno nationalist is a black, white, yellow person who loves their country. Theres nothing wrong with it. This is only pushed as a problem from the media because they want open borders and the UN having all the power.
    They want globalism They hate nationalism. And white people love their country so theyre attacking them.

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    • I'm not just talking about white nationalists so you are just as dumb as him for assuming that I want open borders.

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    • Try again I don't watch cnn or msnbc Nothing wrong with loving your country. I'm talking about the ones who are open with their racism who don't see those who aren't them as the enemy or not apart of the nation. Ethno nationalists are real stop watching Fox News friend it's bad for your health.

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      • Look up the definition nationalist. I am a nationalist and I am white so therefore I am a white nationalist and I proudly wear that label. You can try to group me together with racists, I dont really care, because I know in my heart that I'm not, but I'm proudly a white nationalist. You should look up the definition.

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        • Why not call yourself a American nationalist assuming your American why bring up race or connect yourself with the racists who are very open with how they feel?

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          • The white nationalist label surfaced after Trump said in an interview that he liked nationalism and he considers himself a nationalist. He said I believe nationalism is good. Then right after that the media took off with the "white nationalism" thing. But if you look up the definition of nationalist then white nationalist just means a nationalist thats white. Because nationalist is a noun and white becomes the adjective. I feel its a way to lump all patriotic whites together with racists

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            • this is way before trump I never brought him up.

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          • I am technically an American nationalist as well. But if im a nationalist and im white that makes me a white nationalist also. Just like if I were black and a nationalist I would be a black nationalist.

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            • Why even focus on the race aspect of it? Who cares what race you are if your an American that is all that should matter. That's the problem people dividing each other because of outward appearances.

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  • Think we need a little less hate now. Just ignore the morons. You're not going to fix them. We have a glutton of idiots in the world. I try not to hate anyone. It just takes up to much operating area. I just feel sorry for racist, homophobes, what have you.

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  • Yeah it's ok, your friend is an idiot.

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    • Agreed. The time for this white superiority shit should have long since passed.

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  • I wish I could live somewhere where them scam indians could not call me. I mean its fucking ridiculous. I aint giving you bludgers money. Why do you keep calling and asking me "omg sir, are do at you computer sir, you have viwus sir".

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