Hmm, I don't know. I think that's where you need clever mods. Because the rules are flexible, the mods can work within that framework to resolve things. A good mod can actually be hampered by stringency. Stringency helps bad mods that need back-up, though.
And yeah, my own behaviour hasn't always been exemplary. I once came down on someone so hard that I think they left the site.
A Mod's role is not to take sides in a public debate, nor to give opinion weighted on their powers above others.
They are here ONLY to keep posts/topics/polls within the rules. Any further than that is NOT a Mod.
Therefore a Mod can post just as any other user and be comfortable in knowing that nothing will change from what it already is.
Further, the IP address or any other non privacy issues is already against the site. This site's number 1 principle is that all users can remain anonymous, even if we don't like some of their posts.
Cyber bullying will not be accepted by any social site online. This behaviour if seen as 'bullying' and not just a difference of opinion, would be met with a ban or suspension of account (or other limitations imposed).
As it presently is, I don't see this ongoing bullying that you may reference. I do see very descriptive wording and light hearted attacks that are not breaking any rules. Although the 'bully' posts may have just been removed before I even see them.
I agree 'dappled' would be a good Mod, and if a vote existed (which probably shouldn't happen) he'd get my vote.
True, I was sticking with the word because dinz used it but, you're right, what I was talking about was something different. I was thinking more about a conciliator or arbitrator. Someone to listen and then resolve problems impartially between two or more parties before it becomes a bigger problem.
I have some of the skills to do that but there are plenty of reasons I wouldn't want the role.
That role is not required (in my opinion)
Most 'debating' tends to sort itself out if just left alone to either run its course or just stop.
Mind you, if the 'debate' or conversation leads too far from topic, then the entire topic could be closed (without warning) or those irrelevant posts removed.
ie At no time does a mediator come in and calm the situation.
I think we are still personally 'on topic' at the moment, but its probably border line.
The debating bit is fine, yeah. I agree with you on that. I was thinking of issues outside of the topic of debate, i.e. where people are abusing the site or the people on it. I know you don't have Gold and don't see what's been going on over the past few days. Most of the stories don't get approved, either. But moderation only removes the comments, it doesn't deal with the underlying problems.
There have been a lot of stories posted that are personal attacks on IIN members. Some are thinly disguised, some mention members by name.
For anyone reading, the ones about raping me were a joke, by the way. I know the person who posted them and I do know it was just a joke.
Actually there IS an idea of 'role' title like 'experienced' or 'trusted member' or 'chancellor' member description, that could accompany every post that specific member makes (like under their username)
Please suggest this on the home page under "Send us Quick Feedback". I think its worthy option, that other members (especially newer members) could feel some comfort in knowing they are speaking to someone that may not be just providing nonsense posts.
Its good idea, dappled. The suggestion should come from you. (as it did)
I think you've hit on something there. I hadn't really thought about it in any detail and I'd say that this is your idea rather than mine, and I think it's a very good one. As long as it doesn't increase the "clique" factor or make people feel left out (as Gold has done with some).
I come from a country with a well-defined class system and I quite liked the classlessness of IIN.
Oh, and YOUR suggestion, your idea that I wouldn't have thought of for another 6 months or more.
The idea came from you. The mechanics (like under the username) is irrelevant. It could just as easily be a footer in every post.
If you don't make the suggestion, I'm not doing it either. ie You are making the suggestion (I suggest you do it! :D )
Is it normal: Why users make stories of other users?
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Hmm, I don't know. I think that's where you need clever mods. Because the rules are flexible, the mods can work within that framework to resolve things. A good mod can actually be hampered by stringency. Stringency helps bad mods that need back-up, though.
And yeah, my own behaviour hasn't always been exemplary. I once came down on someone so hard that I think they left the site.
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Just my 2 cents.
A Mod's role is not to take sides in a public debate, nor to give opinion weighted on their powers above others.
They are here ONLY to keep posts/topics/polls within the rules. Any further than that is NOT a Mod.
Therefore a Mod can post just as any other user and be comfortable in knowing that nothing will change from what it already is.
Further, the IP address or any other non privacy issues is already against the site. This site's number 1 principle is that all users can remain anonymous, even if we don't like some of their posts.
Cyber bullying will not be accepted by any social site online. This behaviour if seen as 'bullying' and not just a difference of opinion, would be met with a ban or suspension of account (or other limitations imposed).
As it presently is, I don't see this ongoing bullying that you may reference. I do see very descriptive wording and light hearted attacks that are not breaking any rules. Although the 'bully' posts may have just been removed before I even see them.
I agree 'dappled' would be a good Mod, and if a vote existed (which probably shouldn't happen) he'd get my vote.
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True, I was sticking with the word because dinz used it but, you're right, what I was talking about was something different. I was thinking more about a conciliator or arbitrator. Someone to listen and then resolve problems impartially between two or more parties before it becomes a bigger problem.
I have some of the skills to do that but there are plenty of reasons I wouldn't want the role.
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That role is not required (in my opinion)
Most 'debating' tends to sort itself out if just left alone to either run its course or just stop.
Mind you, if the 'debate' or conversation leads too far from topic, then the entire topic could be closed (without warning) or those irrelevant posts removed.
ie At no time does a mediator come in and calm the situation.
I think we are still personally 'on topic' at the moment, but its probably border line.
Again, all just my opinion.
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The debating bit is fine, yeah. I agree with you on that. I was thinking of issues outside of the topic of debate, i.e. where people are abusing the site or the people on it. I know you don't have Gold and don't see what's been going on over the past few days. Most of the stories don't get approved, either. But moderation only removes the comments, it doesn't deal with the underlying problems.
There have been a lot of stories posted that are personal attacks on IIN members. Some are thinly disguised, some mention members by name.
For anyone reading, the ones about raping me were a joke, by the way. I know the person who posted them and I do know it was just a joke.
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Oh, well I'm obviously not aware of that. Glad the posts were removed.
The 'underlying problem' is for the site not the member!
Posts removed, site back ok.
Actually there IS an idea of 'role' title like 'experienced' or 'trusted member' or 'chancellor' member description, that could accompany every post that specific member makes (like under their username)
Please suggest this on the home page under "Send us Quick Feedback". I think its worthy option, that other members (especially newer members) could feel some comfort in knowing they are speaking to someone that may not be just providing nonsense posts.
Its good idea, dappled. The suggestion should come from you. (as it did)
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I think you've hit on something there. I hadn't really thought about it in any detail and I'd say that this is your idea rather than mine, and I think it's a very good one. As long as it doesn't increase the "clique" factor or make people feel left out (as Gold has done with some).
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I still think worth it.
Oh, and YOUR suggestion, your idea that I wouldn't have thought of for another 6 months or more.
The idea came from you. The mechanics (like under the username) is irrelevant. It could just as easily be a footer in every post.
If you don't make the suggestion, I'm not doing it either. ie You are making the suggestion (I suggest you do it! :D )