From my studies, I've come to conclude that the bible does have some stories of historical accuracy, and a few books are transferred from oral traditions as parables but that many books are of unknown origin and have either been fabricated or altered for the purposes of power, I believe most of this alteration has been done during the Medieval Era and some of the fabrication was an attempt to tame what was a very chaotic society. Religious authorites that I spoke to once upon a time attest that the old testament only originally was the ten commandments and the stories of Moses but nothing more. More was just added.
I hold science in high regard, but even the records of scientific discoveries are not immune from human tampering for gains. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. The first example that comes to mind is companies that pay off their scientists to try to find "conclusive" discoveries in support of their product or cause that they could use to dissuade the public from suspicion.
I couldn't agree more. I have seen some global abuses in research (particularly healthcare) for which people should hang. I don't normally believe in the death penalty but if your actions knowingly bring about the deaths of tens of thousands of people then it doesn't matter if you're a dictator or a businessman in a suit.
I agree with you about the alteration to the texts and when that happened. Occasionally you can see where it's happened.
I'm fascinated by the books of all religions but the bible is a social history as well as historic in the wider sense.
One thing I'm always interested in is when science and the bible work together. Scientifically, we can pretty much prove the great flood, determine where it happened, and even why. If I was religious, though, I might feel squinky about science giving scientific backing to things in the bible.
I know there's absolutely no need for the two spheres of thought to be opposed (and it's my personal opinion that they have the same root) but that's the way it sometimes seems. I wish more people approached it like you and I. I don't think we attack each other about it at all, and I'm always interested in what you say because you come at it calmly and without suspicion.
I'm glad someone else sees it the way I do.
I believe that my mentality stems from my belief that humans are entirely and eternally flawed and by extension, anything they create will be flawed as well. On that account, whether or not my church or collegues agree with me, I'm nonetheless always willing to accept that anything created by the hands of a human is fallible no matter how air tight it may seem.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, that religion and science as well as every academia can live together in harmony. All knowledge is wonderful. Personally, I see science (by which I mean the observable processes of nature and the possibilities of which) as God's gift to man as a means to understand his creation. Like an artist showing his work to.the world, there's a little bit of God and the universe in everything. I'm sure I don't have to explain to you the wonders of the mechanisms of cells and how they bear such similarity to what has been invented by humans...
Whether you chock it up to a Supreme Creator or to the magic that is in nature in and of itself is your personal choice that I feel no need to judge. I'm just happy that I'm not the only person that can appreciate both "worlds".
Is it normal to wonder why people don't believe in Jesus?
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From my studies, I've come to conclude that the bible does have some stories of historical accuracy, and a few books are transferred from oral traditions as parables but that many books are of unknown origin and have either been fabricated or altered for the purposes of power, I believe most of this alteration has been done during the Medieval Era and some of the fabrication was an attempt to tame what was a very chaotic society. Religious authorites that I spoke to once upon a time attest that the old testament only originally was the ten commandments and the stories of Moses but nothing more. More was just added.
I hold science in high regard, but even the records of scientific discoveries are not immune from human tampering for gains. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about. The first example that comes to mind is companies that pay off their scientists to try to find "conclusive" discoveries in support of their product or cause that they could use to dissuade the public from suspicion.
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I couldn't agree more. I have seen some global abuses in research (particularly healthcare) for which people should hang. I don't normally believe in the death penalty but if your actions knowingly bring about the deaths of tens of thousands of people then it doesn't matter if you're a dictator or a businessman in a suit.
I agree with you about the alteration to the texts and when that happened. Occasionally you can see where it's happened.
I'm fascinated by the books of all religions but the bible is a social history as well as historic in the wider sense.
One thing I'm always interested in is when science and the bible work together. Scientifically, we can pretty much prove the great flood, determine where it happened, and even why. If I was religious, though, I might feel squinky about science giving scientific backing to things in the bible.
I know there's absolutely no need for the two spheres of thought to be opposed (and it's my personal opinion that they have the same root) but that's the way it sometimes seems. I wish more people approached it like you and I. I don't think we attack each other about it at all, and I'm always interested in what you say because you come at it calmly and without suspicion.
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I'm glad someone else sees it the way I do.
I believe that my mentality stems from my belief that humans are entirely and eternally flawed and by extension, anything they create will be flawed as well. On that account, whether or not my church or collegues agree with me, I'm nonetheless always willing to accept that anything created by the hands of a human is fallible no matter how air tight it may seem.
I agree with you wholeheartedly, that religion and science as well as every academia can live together in harmony. All knowledge is wonderful. Personally, I see science (by which I mean the observable processes of nature and the possibilities of which) as God's gift to man as a means to understand his creation. Like an artist showing his work to.the world, there's a little bit of God and the universe in everything. I'm sure I don't have to explain to you the wonders of the mechanisms of cells and how they bear such similarity to what has been invented by humans...
Whether you chock it up to a Supreme Creator or to the magic that is in nature in and of itself is your personal choice that I feel no need to judge. I'm just happy that I'm not the only person that can appreciate both "worlds".