Is it normal to wish I believed in god?

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  • This isn't uncommon for atheists, given that the vast majority of us were brought up in one religion or another.

    I occasionally wish that too until I have a laugh at myself remembering the childhood years of terror that I wasn't a good enough christian and if I died god would send me to hell. Who would want to go back to that?

    It's possible to be a spiritual atheist by the way, you don't need a god or gods or a goddess to be spiritual

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    • oh, I did not know there was that side of it, thanks for sharing. That's true, I've found some spirituality in the enneagram, how do you find spirituality?

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      • Aren't enneagrams to do with scientology? Personally I wouldn't go anywhere near that, or have I got it mixed up with e-meters?

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        • Scientology scares the poo out of me! Is it normal that I take a certain amount of pride in the fact that I've never found Tom Cruise especially attractive, because well... he's batshit crazy?

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          • Well if you weren't crazy when you joined you soon would be ...... He certainly acts crazy in recent interviews I've seen. I feel pretty much the same way about an Australian singer Kate Ceberano: I can see she's attractive except for the open mouth hysterical laughter with head thrown back just like Tom Cruise - do they have special lessons in maniacal laughter and/or have extra large teeth grafted into their mouths or what?

            However, although she's nice to look at and has a beautiful singing voice, I just can't stand her and have to turn off the tv if she comes on, because I can't see past the enormous damage the so-called "church" has done to so many vulnerable and gullible people.

            A while ago they wanted to move one of their ripoff so-called drug "rehab" centres into a small tourist town in this state but the locals managed to stop it through legal channels. A few people I know who live there wrote on the petitions that they'd didn't mind junkies coming into their town but they didn't want Scientologists!

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            • Yes, junkies are better than Scientologists! I hate that they're recognized as a religion in the United States! What the Hell kind of stupid religion tries to dig up dirt on anyone who openly opposes or criticizes them so they can drag that person through the mud? They're all so brainwashed with their empty eyes. They basically enslave their non celebrity members.

              I especially hated Tom Cruise's attacks on Brook Shields regarding her usage of antidepressants to treat her postpartum depression. His crazy ass should mind his own damn business! I honestly think Scientologists are evil. If woke up tomorrow as an Agnostic or an Atheist rather than a Roman Catholic I would still think of Scientology as an evil cult of crazy people.

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              • I think they're a ponzi scheme. Crazy mofos! And I'm not too fond of JWs either. The whole blood phobia thing is so pointless...they let kids die rather than take meds with blood serum or getting a transfusion.

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              • They're a church here in Australia too, which just proves how stupid the legal system is to allow just about any group to call itself a church and get tax exemptions. Even if they are a legitimate religion, which they're not, why should the community support any religious organisation with tax breaks?

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      • Music, nature, being in tune with the seasonal and moon cycles, poetry .... nothing that involves worshipping anything or anybody though.

        I did do some Native American spirituality with a Native American woman years ago, which I dropped out of after she turned herself into an authoritarian guru, but I retained her focus of connection with the earth, myself and other people - that's enough spirituality for me!

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    • You are so stupid........a "spiritual atheist ". Lmao.Pray for God to install a brain in you big fat stupid head.

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      • You're showing your own ignorance if you really believe it's impossible to be spiritual without believing in a gawd. Have you never heard of buddhism or indigenous spirituality where no gawds are involved at all?

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        • You know I'm Roman Catholic, but I've known plenty of Agnostics and Atheists who were very spiritual.

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        • That makes sense to me actually. I'm a free floating Christian kind of but I've met more terrible phony Christians than atheists.

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          • Well that doesn't surprise me one bit! If you have a religion based on fear then you're going to get hypocrites.

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            • Yeah. I don't go for that old testament crazy god who kills people. I like Buddha too:)

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        • No, I don't need them "oh spiritual one " . Simple Simon

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    • I had a fairly comprehensive response, but of course my stupid smartphone ate it.
      :-'(

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      • Where do they go, all those "lost messages"? I only use a desk top but because I touch type very quickly and there are apparently hidden short cuts I don't know about, I often use the best posts of all! Always when I've nearly finished, of course.

        If you patted the phone over your shoulder maybe it would bring it up again for you?

        (Sorry I'm a bit stoned so that might only be funny to me)

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        • Your responses tell me you are an ugly old lonely drag queen who smells like mothballs and kerosene combined.In other word you pathetic old philosophical hag, you fk'n stink.

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        • Yeah, it's always when you're almost done, it's Murphy's Law. I wish I was stoned, but sadly I have no source and money's tight.
          :-(

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