No, it's not normal to want to start a cult? You talk about this the same way other people talk about wanting to join a gym, or get a new haircut. Maybe you're a self-absorbed narcissist? It's possible, stranger things have happened.
Hard to explain, at least in a console way, as I've said elsewhere on here. Keep an eye out for a new comment thread on here where I'll link a pastebin explaining my beliefs and how I would structure things if I were to start preaching them
"Catholic bishop," what a joke. Indeed, OP would be more like either of them, or maybe Muhammad, who knows? All though, I feel like the Mormon and Scientology people at least believed what they were saying, unlike OP or Muhammad.
There has been an unverifiable rumour for decades that L. Ron Hubbard once said that the best way to get rich was to start a religion. Regardless of whether he did actually say that to anyone, he definitely structured Scientology as primarily a money-making enterprise, and he lived very well off it. There's loads of evidence that Hubbard was a habitual liar, fantasist, schemer and manipulator from when he was young. Whether he truly believed the Diantetics crap is unknowable, but it is clear that later in life he did seem to truly believe his particular line of BS. But then later in his life he was also lost in delusions of grandeur, power-mad and came out with some totally batshit cray stuff.
As for the Mormons, Joseph Smith was another interesting character who was either a whack-job who truly believed he was capable of using a special rock to find treasure, or a conman looking to make a living off the gullible. Maybe he genuinely didn't realise that chunks of the Book of Mormon were plagiarised from the Bible, novels and other books because the passages came to him due to subconscious memories, or maybe he knew perfectly well what he'd done. Maybe the parallels between Mormon rituals and symbols and those of Freemasonry are completely coincidental, and nothing to do with the fact that Smith was a Mason. Maybe he genuinely believed that polygamy was God's preferred form of marriage, and this claimed revelation had nothing to do with him and his cronies wanting to bone and control more women than just their wives.
You're right! The scienologist didn't believe what he was teaching. If I recall correctly, he made scientology entirely because of a bet. I believe the bet was around $20,000 to start a religion.
I'd rather be dead than become a Mormon, or Scientologist. Those people are bat shit crazy! With regard to my religion I'm happy where I am.
The fact that there are still Mormons around is mind boggling to me, because that polygamy shit is so stupid. I honestly think it would be better to just worship nature like a Wiccan than be a Mormon.
I totally believe what you stated in your first paragraph about L. Ron Hubbard just wanting money.
Wiccanism is something I believe to be rather interesting and believe in to a certain extent, though from what you're saying I'm guessing you are agnostic or aethiest?
I believe above all else that all religions are acceptable faiths as long as they make you happy and give you your own truth. Even if I don't personally think they are good or true, they have their purpose
And I also believe that all religions are true in their own ways, even if not true in their entirety they can have truth to them in places
Yeah, there's a lot of whack people out there and some religions weren't founded on much or were debatable as to whether those foundings were actually for the sake of others and righteousness or for self profit
One common meme I see about Christianity is the virgin Mary inventing a religion rather than admit she cheated, but with that being so far in the past it's really uncertain what's happened to cause Christianity and where it's true origins lie
But we all have our own truth, even if that truth is dumbfuck insane
I do believe in what what I say and would preach if given the chance, I said a Catholic bishop because it is very hard to find a parallel to what I would actually be doing
There isn't any sort of thing for what I believe currently out there (at least not in an organized form). And trying to make it a thing would most likely make it classify as a cult due to how it would have to initially be structured. So not really no
Hard to fully explain, and honestly what I would actually be doing if I were to start trying to preach what I believe is more akin to something more akin to a tribal shaman rather that a Catholic bishop. It's hard to really put a parralel to it
If you can't explain what you believe there's really no reason for anyone to follow you. Make no mistake I wouldn't follow you, because I am 100% down with where I'm at if you catch my drift.
IIN to want to start a religion or cult?
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No, it's not normal to want to start a cult? You talk about this the same way other people talk about wanting to join a gym, or get a new haircut. Maybe you're a self-absorbed narcissist? It's possible, stranger things have happened.
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I don't want to be worshiped in it, just the leader showing people a brighter path. Kind of like a bishop in the Catholic order.
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Like a Catholic bishop huh, are you sure you're not trying to be like a Mormon prophet, or that Scientology guy?
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As I recently stated in other replies it's hard to really draw a parallel, but that's the best one I could think of at the time
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Just give me a brief synopsis of what you believe.
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Hard to explain, at least in a console way, as I've said elsewhere on here. Keep an eye out for a new comment thread on here where I'll link a pastebin explaining my beliefs and how I would structure things if I were to start preaching them
"Catholic bishop," what a joke. Indeed, OP would be more like either of them, or maybe Muhammad, who knows? All though, I feel like the Mormon and Scientology people at least believed what they were saying, unlike OP or Muhammad.
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There has been an unverifiable rumour for decades that L. Ron Hubbard once said that the best way to get rich was to start a religion. Regardless of whether he did actually say that to anyone, he definitely structured Scientology as primarily a money-making enterprise, and he lived very well off it. There's loads of evidence that Hubbard was a habitual liar, fantasist, schemer and manipulator from when he was young. Whether he truly believed the Diantetics crap is unknowable, but it is clear that later in life he did seem to truly believe his particular line of BS. But then later in his life he was also lost in delusions of grandeur, power-mad and came out with some totally batshit cray stuff.
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You're right! The scienologist didn't believe what he was teaching. If I recall correctly, he made scientology entirely because of a bet. I believe the bet was around $20,000 to start a religion.
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L. Ron Hubbard sounds like a truly awful person, and his fake religion is proof that the majority of people in Hollyweird are morons.
I'd rather be dead than become a Mormon, or Scientologist. Those people are bat shit crazy! With regard to my religion I'm happy where I am.
The fact that there are still Mormons around is mind boggling to me, because that polygamy shit is so stupid. I honestly think it would be better to just worship nature like a Wiccan than be a Mormon.
I totally believe what you stated in your first paragraph about L. Ron Hubbard just wanting money.
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Wiccanism is something I believe to be rather interesting and believe in to a certain extent, though from what you're saying I'm guessing you are agnostic or aethiest?
I believe above all else that all religions are acceptable faiths as long as they make you happy and give you your own truth. Even if I don't personally think they are good or true, they have their purpose
And I also believe that all religions are true in their own ways, even if not true in their entirety they can have truth to them in places
Yeah, there's a lot of whack people out there and some religions weren't founded on much or were debatable as to whether those foundings were actually for the sake of others and righteousness or for self profit
One common meme I see about Christianity is the virgin Mary inventing a religion rather than admit she cheated, but with that being so far in the past it's really uncertain what's happened to cause Christianity and where it's true origins lie
But we all have our own truth, even if that truth is dumbfuck insane
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Nah, there's only one truth. We don't all have "our own truth." Some of just lie to ourselves or get lied to and believe it.
I do believe in what what I say and would preach if given the chance, I said a Catholic bishop because it is very hard to find a parallel to what I would actually be doing
Can’t you do that without creating a cult?
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There isn't any sort of thing for what I believe currently out there (at least not in an organized form). And trying to make it a thing would most likely make it classify as a cult due to how it would have to initially be structured. So not really no
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So, what exactly do you believe?
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Hard to fully explain, and honestly what I would actually be doing if I were to start trying to preach what I believe is more akin to something more akin to a tribal shaman rather that a Catholic bishop. It's hard to really put a parralel to it
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You're really fond of the word akin, aren't you?
If you can't explain what you believe there's really no reason for anyone to follow you. Make no mistake I wouldn't follow you, because I am 100% down with where I'm at if you catch my drift.