"Why do we treat animals more humanely then we do humans?" Are you serious? Animals aren't the ones killing, raping, destroying our earth, and environment. We are.
Everyone has their own reason to live. Some just don't know it yet. At the end, life is really what you make it. If you sit at home all day in the computer, doing nothing, wasting your time, you'll get nothing accomplished.
I concede that humans are the only animal on the planet yet to find an equilibrium with their environment.
But you gave a politician's answer to my question. What is the reason for life? Don't waste your time or mine with silly drivel about family or children either.
Accomplishments mean little as well. To the individual it does sure but its other's opinions that form a sense of achievement. Any street bum can feel accomplished in their mind with little actually achieved. Besides whether accomplishments are grand or not that person still dies one day.
There is no meaning to life, at least not in the way you are speaking.
Biologically speaking, life exists to perpetuate itself. If we were living in our proper niche within the environment, it would be much more important to breed as much as possible. As it is, we're slowly choking the planet.
Speaking in a more conceptual sense, the universe is pretty much devoid of meaning aside from the perpetuation of the life cycle. That's where we come in. We create things... create fictions, machines, tools, music. In a similar sense, we create the meaning. It's personal to you.. whatever you want to accomplish with your time on this earth.
Presumably, the best way to do this is to create some kind of improvement for future generations. At least, that's how I see it. The greater portion of mankind seems to have forsaken their role as caretakers.
And as for mentally handicapped people, you are absolutely right. Recently I've been meditating more, going outside more, easing my mind into finding happiness in the small things again. It's certainly not the same as happiness through innocence... but we can still find a good measure of peace.
Yeah, I've never understood people who talk about "meaning" and "purpose" as if they're objective, tangible entities. There's no meaning gland in our bodies, and no purpose plants to be harvested.
Purpose is not function. The purpose of a tree is not to intake CO2 and release oxygen. The tree gains purpose when we plant it intentionally for its fruit. Which is of course a totally arbitrary imposition. So unless you believe that we were planted by a creator, meaning and purpose become wholly arbitrary internal constructs. You don't mean anything to the rest of the universe.
That seems to strike a lot of people as a gloomy and frightening idea, but I think it's rather liberating. It's the tenet of the existentialists - the universe is like a pitch dark room, which leaves us free to light our own match. We create meaning for ourselves. We are our own gods.
Given the idea (most likely even fact) that the universe as we see it is so vast and so beyond our comprehension, what makes us think anything we do at all, EVER, has any meaning or purpose in it?
Humans beings are also most certainly not Gods in any way either. Even this planet we occupy doesnt interpret reality at all in a way we can even measure, (if at all) so it certainly doesnt care what happens to us, same for the universe except on a much much MUCH larger scale.
To the tree's own end its purpose is to intake carbon dioxide because if it didnt it wouldnt survive, but it's external purpose is the same as ours.
To die is inevitable, therefore we must not worry about that which we cannot change. Our time is the time we are alive, our meaning exists in that same frame.
Is it normal to think the meaning of life is a pratical joke?
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"Why do we treat animals more humanely then we do humans?" Are you serious? Animals aren't the ones killing, raping, destroying our earth, and environment. We are.
Everyone has their own reason to live. Some just don't know it yet. At the end, life is really what you make it. If you sit at home all day in the computer, doing nothing, wasting your time, you'll get nothing accomplished.
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I concede that humans are the only animal on the planet yet to find an equilibrium with their environment.
But you gave a politician's answer to my question. What is the reason for life? Don't waste your time or mine with silly drivel about family or children either.
Accomplishments mean little as well. To the individual it does sure but its other's opinions that form a sense of achievement. Any street bum can feel accomplished in their mind with little actually achieved. Besides whether accomplishments are grand or not that person still dies one day.
So what or where is the point?
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There is no meaning to life, at least not in the way you are speaking.
Biologically speaking, life exists to perpetuate itself. If we were living in our proper niche within the environment, it would be much more important to breed as much as possible. As it is, we're slowly choking the planet.
Speaking in a more conceptual sense, the universe is pretty much devoid of meaning aside from the perpetuation of the life cycle. That's where we come in. We create things... create fictions, machines, tools, music. In a similar sense, we create the meaning. It's personal to you.. whatever you want to accomplish with your time on this earth.
Presumably, the best way to do this is to create some kind of improvement for future generations. At least, that's how I see it. The greater portion of mankind seems to have forsaken their role as caretakers.
And as for mentally handicapped people, you are absolutely right. Recently I've been meditating more, going outside more, easing my mind into finding happiness in the small things again. It's certainly not the same as happiness through innocence... but we can still find a good measure of peace.
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Yeah, I've never understood people who talk about "meaning" and "purpose" as if they're objective, tangible entities. There's no meaning gland in our bodies, and no purpose plants to be harvested.
Purpose is not function. The purpose of a tree is not to intake CO2 and release oxygen. The tree gains purpose when we plant it intentionally for its fruit. Which is of course a totally arbitrary imposition. So unless you believe that we were planted by a creator, meaning and purpose become wholly arbitrary internal constructs. You don't mean anything to the rest of the universe.
That seems to strike a lot of people as a gloomy and frightening idea, but I think it's rather liberating. It's the tenet of the existentialists - the universe is like a pitch dark room, which leaves us free to light our own match. We create meaning for ourselves. We are our own gods.
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Given the idea (most likely even fact) that the universe as we see it is so vast and so beyond our comprehension, what makes us think anything we do at all, EVER, has any meaning or purpose in it?
Humans beings are also most certainly not Gods in any way either. Even this planet we occupy doesnt interpret reality at all in a way we can even measure, (if at all) so it certainly doesnt care what happens to us, same for the universe except on a much much MUCH larger scale.
To the tree's own end its purpose is to intake carbon dioxide because if it didnt it wouldnt survive, but it's external purpose is the same as ours.
To one day die.
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To die is inevitable, therefore we must not worry about that which we cannot change. Our time is the time we are alive, our meaning exists in that same frame.
agree!!